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In reply to the discussion: "Why we should have fewer children: to save the planet" [View all]ehrnst
(32,640 posts)80. The thing that drops birth rate most is participation by women in a society
That is the key.
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Reproduction rates are already at historic lows and have been declining for decades...
pipoman
Sep 2016
#1
Exactly. The population of several EU countries is in decline. Here in the US it will be within 10.
tonyt53
Sep 2016
#2
Not assuming anything of the sort. We also are producing enough to keep up with demand.
tonyt53
Sep 2016
#29
Food production is currently heavily dependant upon fossil fuels, a nonrenewable resource
NickB79
Sep 2016
#129
You seriously believe your genes are superior to those of the 7.4 billion people in the world?
athena
Sep 2016
#25
I have seen those angry mobs of stroller pushers roaming the streets, hunting for well-rested adults
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#45
might not environment be related to some genetic component? there could be more than
TheFrenchRazor
Sep 2016
#38
Meanwhile, people who don't give a fuck about saving the planet are having a "quiverfull."
Iggo
Sep 2016
#10
i knew this for years. just because i like old cemeteries and i saw that start trek w/ the bee
pansypoo53219
Sep 2016
#14
Why do so many people automatically assume that any argument that discusses population control
smirkymonkey
Sep 2016
#117
Why do so many so called liberals have such a problem with controlling fertility
smirkymonkey
Sep 2016
#18
Thanks! I feel like people are taking this personally or like the message is that
smirkymonkey
Sep 2016
#54
People are very threatened by the idea of a woman who wants to live her own life.
athena
Sep 2016
#99
I've concluded that some people are absolutely miserable if they cant tell other people what to do.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#53
Of course, it may sort itself out through disease, famine, floods, wars, and cannibalism.
athena
Sep 2016
#60
that's an incredibly realistic and sensible proposal, you've made there.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#88
I'm not saying give up, I'm saying we're stuck in a loop no matter what we do
The2ndWheel
Sep 2016
#113
Well, It's kind of hard to have taxpayers when there aren't enough jobs to go around for
smirkymonkey
Sep 2016
#97
so, like what sort of criticism would you level at a family that has 3 children?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#87
And like I said, that's a resource utilization problem, not a population one.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#86
The uncomfortable truth is we are already beyond the carrying capacity of the Earth
FLPanhandle
Sep 2016
#61
"Many scientists think Earth has a maximum carrying capacity of 9 billion to 10 billion people."
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#91
are you suggesting that the people in that link are anti-science deniers?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#95
you're not listening to me, and I think you're the one who didn't read the article.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#104
I don't eat red meat, not that my diet (or reproductive life) is really any of your business.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#106
You're the one putting all your hopes in a sudden worldwide conversion to vegetarianism.
athena
Sep 2016
#109
I didn't say I was putting all my hopes on vegetarianism, and neither did the article.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#110
Or have twenty, and make sure they stick together and are all outfitted like the Lord Humungus.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#131
I agree completely that everyone who thinks like this should have few children as possible.
CBGLuthier
Sep 2016
#79
Absolutely. I don't recommend parenting to anyone. It has to be something you opt into
ehrnst
Sep 2016
#116
I've always looked as raising children the same way. Other people can deal with that shit.
RB TexLa
Sep 2016
#122
I read the article, and he does the classic thing of setting up imaginary strawmen to make his case.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#119
well, upthread you have people suggesting we should lower our birthrate to zero and then just import
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2016
#133