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independentpiney

(1,510 posts)
9. Are you sure she was the driving force?
Sun Jul 24, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jul 2016

I recall her being the major advocate for use of force within the Obama administration, but wasn't the original intervention led by France and Britain under a UN resolution?
Also, Gadahfi had mellowed in 25 years and cooperated with giving up wmd's and I believe may have even formally renounced the use of terrorism. No doubt he was still batshit insane and brutally repressed all opposition, but defending the judgement to support Islamists overthrowing a secular dictator as revenge for events from the 1980's is really weak in my opinion.
The many other events that have happened in the interceding years should have indicated it was a bad idea. I think it was poor judgement on the part of all of the involved parties internationally including the then SOS. But Hillary Clinton didn't lead the charge, and I assume did what she was obliged to do as SoS in support of NATO partners and the UN.

Libya now resembles Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. There is no defense for creating a failed state Press Virginia Jul 2016 #1
Tell that to the parents of the Syracuse kids louis c Jul 2016 #2
You think they support using their children to justify creating a failed nation Press Virginia Jul 2016 #6
No, for bringing their killer to justice louis c Jul 2016 #10
Their killers were brought to justice. We bombed Libya so Europe could have cheap oil Press Virginia Jul 2016 #12
Ghadafi murdered Americans louis c Jul 2016 #13
Turning Libya into a failed state is justice? For whom? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #14
the rebels acted organically louis c Jul 2016 #15
And, now, Libya is a failed state...how does that improve US Security? Press Virginia Jul 2016 #16
Okay, that defense is not the slightest bit convincing. Vattel Jul 2016 #3
Good post. bigwillq Jul 2016 #7
You and Ron Reagan have the same policy. AngryAmish Jul 2016 #4
Your argument on retaliation 25 years later is weaker tha Bush's argument to invade Afghanistan. rug Jul 2016 #5
What's the statute of limintation on terrorist murder? louis c Jul 2016 #11
I think it's the same as the deaniac21 Jul 2016 #17
There is no statute of liminatations on murder louis c Jul 2016 #18
The Lockerbie bomber was released in 2011. If your theory is true then-Secretary Clinton Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2016 #8
Are you sure she was the driving force? independentpiney Jul 2016 #9
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