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Arizona Roadrunner

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45. Some questions for police unions and local governments

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 09:50 AM

Jul 2016

As a person who has had some college level police training courses and who has been a negotiator between local governmental units, one big question needs to be asked to the police unions. How do you deal with members who are "bad cops"? Also, local governments must be much more aware of today's training that is much more "militaristic" in basis than "community service" in format and content. Also, local governments need to be asked if they are going to have this high end armament around, how much can they afford to do the training for the use of this "stuff"? example: If you are going to have a semi-automatic and/or automatic weapon in your arsenal with the training you can afford, how would you feel if your wife was in the bank when it was being held up and your officers were outside with said weapons?

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The Uncomfortable Reason Why it Came to This in Dallas Yesterday [View all] Brickbat Jul 2016 OP

And the cops sell this to the public. HassleCat Jul 2016 #1

What If The Cops Are The "Them" We Are Supposed To Be Afraid Of Yallow Jul 2016 #14

An unexpectedly good article Nevernose Jul 2016 #2

Yeah, I know certain links make people unhappy, but I think it's important to find common Brickbat Jul 2016 #5

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #22

Any other links to this besides Redstates? n/t BronxBoy Jul 2016 #3

It's a Redstate original Nevernose Jul 2016 #4

And not all of the comments are knee-jerk Obama-bashing Patiod Jul 2016 #8

Even FR sort of lines up on the AZ incident mostly forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #13

Boundaries. There has to be boundaries in our society. The police force did not give boundaries seabeyond Jul 2016 #6

I didn't read the whole article... JayhawkSD Jul 2016 #7

It's honestly worth the read Nevernose Jul 2016 #9

The managing editor wrote it! I may need to go lie down. Brickbat Jul 2016 #10

The police have license to kill Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #11

If you are a cop, or a soldier, or a politican, or a rich person you can now do nearly anything hollowdweller Jul 2016 #33

The nation becomes a private club and most aren't part of it LarryNM Jul 2016 #35

There are too many uneducated folks out there who buy into the fear thing. raven mad Jul 2016 #12

According to Dallas police the suspect was mad at white people. jalan48 Jul 2016 #15

"So if it's ok to kill all cops" Where has anyone suggested it is ok to kill cops? seabeyond Jul 2016 #16

The suspect. That's why he opened fire like he did. jalan48 Jul 2016 #18

I read you comment incorrectly. My bad. seabeyond Jul 2016 #20

Not a problem. jalan48 Jul 2016 #21

The "answer" is in the article ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #24

I don't doubt the validity of the reasons. However, I don't agree with the killing of innocent cops. jalan48 Jul 2016 #25

No one does. Which was my original point. NO ONE agrees with murdering cops. So, no however seabeyond Jul 2016 #26

Good to hear-thank you. jalan48 Jul 2016 #27

I agree ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #29

I agree with you on this. A national dialogue needs to happen now. jalan48 Jul 2016 #31

Saying "I think I understand why X happened" does not mean "I agree with X" or "I'm glad X happened" Brickbat Jul 2016 #17

Thanks for the clarification. jalan48 Jul 2016 #19

it's pretty fucking close Skittles Jul 2016 #40

It's what I was thinking this morning but more eloquent cally Jul 2016 #23

In the 4 minutes I could stand of Morning Joe this morning ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #28

The juries were largely following the judge's instructions on the law and how OnlyTheGood Jul 2016 #37

I'm surprised awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #39

As long as some DUers don't see color, and don't see a problem IronLionZion Jul 2016 #30

Are you saying ALL lives don't matter!!! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #34

back to walking the beat instead of patrols. protect, not invade the community. shit. end red lines. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #32

"And here's the most important part: when they do so, they never or almost never face punishment." Liberal_in_LA Jul 2016 #36

Thanks BronxBoy Jul 2016 #38

And what you are not saying here needs to be said as well passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #41

Today, a close friend shared on facebook what she feared most, as a mother. Bohunk68 Jul 2016 #42

That's a pretty brave statement from Red State. sufrommich Jul 2016 #43

So. Very. True. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #44

Some questions for police unions and local governments Arizona Roadrunner Jul 2016 #45

These are excellent questions and I hope you follow up with the departments in your area. Brickbat Jul 2016 #46

Great article Ruby the Liberal Jul 2016 #47