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110. "No, politicians poll their base and react accordingly." Wrong, again ...

Mon May 23, 2016, 07:03 AM

May 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/03/04/one-study-explains-why-its-tough-to-pass-liberal-laws/

Broockman and Skovron find that legislators consistently believe their constituents are more conservative than they actually are. This includes Republicans and Democrats, liberals and conservatives. But conservative legislators generally overestimate the conservatism of their constituents by 20 points. "This difference is so large that nearly half of conservative politicians appear to believe that they represent a district that is more conservative on these issues than is the most conservative district in the entire country," Broockman and Skovron write. This finding held up across a range of issues.

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"If this isn't the end for the Republican Party, it'll be a shame." [View all] cali May 2016 OP

Beautifully stated but a line malaise May 2016 #1

the money quote: corkhead May 2016 #2

Total extremist garbage IMO. Trust Buster May 2016 #3

You really are on the wrong site cali May 2016 #4

The piece wasn't brilliant at all. It was an unhinged rant that sounded every bit as intolerant as Trust Buster May 2016 #5

Nothing remotely unhinged about it. It's a tightly crafted, scathing cali May 2016 #14

Highly accurate description. zentrum May 2016 #84

Thank you. cali May 2016 #85

If they don't get it they have outed themselves... AwakeAtLast May 2016 #91

I dunno, this was a pretty good sum up of the last 35 years: Hydra May 2016 #19

"The most successful trick was linking the corporate mantra of profit without responsibility to the Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #67

Not quite so. lpbk2713 May 2016 #25

People vote for Repugs against their own interests for many reasons, lark May 2016 #37

Ah, the old "they're just stupid" argument. Trust Buster May 2016 #44

YES, more people who didn't graduate from high school vote Repug than Dem. lark May 2016 #46

Not quite, Republican voting has more to do with income than anything else... Fumesucker May 2016 #53

A Deep Dive Into Party Affiliation ronnie624 May 2016 #66

"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans... alterfurz May 2016 #80

Yes, frankly skepticscott May 2016 #58

People who want to erect a wall on the Rio Grande ... lpbk2713 May 2016 #74

Hell, my Governer (sic) wants to build a wall through the Great Lakes! Scuba May 2016 #107

Not that IQs capture the breadth of intelligence, or that IQ is everything but cali May 2016 #69

Yup - stupid. Evangelicals voting for the thugs. 100% stupid. nt Lucky Luciano May 2016 #83

Spot on. Different Drummer May 2016 #89

Thanks and welcome to DU lark May 2016 #115

Right. JDPriestly May 2016 #99

How about the propaganda and lies that the 90% Republican-owned news media deliberately Cal33 May 2016 #63

Any journalist that throws out red meat to sell copy is wrong IMO. Trust Buster May 2016 #64

I am glad we agree on somethings. Cal33 May 2016 #87

They actually didn't win more votes. Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #81

No. More Americans did NOT vote for Republicans world wide wally May 2016 #92

Scary how we're now supposed to idolize these people because they are moving into our party Hydra May 2016 #6

Sickening. cali May 2016 #11

What is sickening is someone who disagrees with a political party calling them Trust Buster May 2016 #16

Yeah, how dare people criticise a party that has become so hateful and racist cali May 2016 #21

Well, look at the record ThoughtCriminal May 2016 #93

So he's saying it, but they're DOING it skepticscott May 2016 #61

They are bringing more than just their money. Ferd Berfel May 2016 #41

Interestingly. The Democratic Party of the Clintons has been more welcoming and open to the JDPriestly May 2016 #100

Thomas Frank on Hartmann today Ferd Berfel May 2016 #116

"Extremist garbage?" Hardly. Go elsewhere to peddle that crap. CurtEastPoint May 2016 #8

I'll go where I damn well please. It was an unhinged rant IMO. Trust Buster May 2016 #13

Taibbi is a brilliant PatSeg May 2016 #15

"Monsters" ? "destroyed the character of America" ? "hell is not hot enough" ? Really ? Trust Buster May 2016 #18

Yes. Destroyed the character of America. Absolutely cali May 2016 #22

I have family members that are Republicans. You probably do as well. I will not call them Trust Buster May 2016 #29

He was referring to PatSeg May 2016 #33

I have family members who are ex-republicans cali May 2016 #35

Maybe in the person you are responding to, their case Katashi_itto May 2016 #39

Sure he is. You can't divorce Republicans from their Party. The Party looks at the polls and mimic Trust Buster May 2016 #43

Of course you can divorce party leadership from voters. cali May 2016 #47

No, politicians poll their base and react accordingly. Trust Buster May 2016 #48

Politicians have a responsibility to not encourage hate and bigotry cali May 2016 #51

But it's fine for a writer of the Rolling Stone to call millions of fellow Americans monsters ? Trust Buster May 2016 #56

That is not what he did cali May 2016 #60

LOLOLOLOLOL AntiBank May 2016 #103

"No, politicians poll their base and react accordingly." Wrong, again ... Scuba May 2016 #110

You have been extremely argumentative, especially so in the last 90 days. You sure are passionate... ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #88

Don't bother speaking truth to that one... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #59

You are so right cali May 2016 #70

On a political level, I would call them monsters. They know not what they do. Fools is an even B JDPriestly May 2016 #101

Really PatSeg May 2016 #27

and just as obvious is you haven't been paying attention the last Mbrow May 2016 #30

Sure as hell did. Took us from people who DID care about others and science and space to LiberalArkie May 2016 #40

I replied to wrong thread. Sorry. We are in agreement. CurtEastPoint May 2016 #79

lost? heaven05 May 2016 #10

It's absolutely correct n/t gollygee May 2016 #12

Why don't you read the entire article? mountain grammy May 2016 #28

I did. "Monsters" ? "Destroyed the character of America" ? "Hell is not hot enough" ? Trust Buster May 2016 #45

He is right. The Republican Party is a monster. It has destroyed the character of America, and JDPriestly May 2016 #102

Lolol...revealed to what you truly are. Katashi_itto May 2016 #36

Free Republic is that way. ------------------> Feeling the Bern May 2016 #42

Have you seen what the republlicans throw at us including trying to get rid of healthcare patsimp May 2016 #49

You don't seem to understand how message boards work. yardwork May 2016 #50

DU has sunk so low TransitJohn May 2016 #52

I challenge you before this entire forum to rebut each and every point Taibbi makes. Get busy. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #86

Best comment on Rolling Stone LiberalArkie May 2016 #7

On Sun May 22, 2016, 09:31 AM an alert was sent on the following post: baran May 2016 #32

Here's the alerter, apparently in some stage of grief: silvershadow May 2016 #77

Not grief wryter2000 May 2016 #113

The RS comments are mostly from right wingers but I thought this was the best SharonClark May 2016 #72

Agree! jaxind May 2016 #9

I googled "accomplishments of the Republican party" and got this nonsense IronLionZion May 2016 #17

Wow PatSeg May 2016 #71

Kicked and recommended to the Max! nt Enthusiast May 2016 #20

From what I'm seeing, the Republicans I know are even more determined to back the party. bulloney May 2016 #23

It's going to be reaaly strange as they move over to our party Hydra May 2016 #24

Same here... awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #62

Two GOP parties is what we have but one of them calls itself jwirr May 2016 #75

They are so brainwashed PatSeg May 2016 #73

YEP Cosmocat May 2016 #105

Wake Up. They Always Say This billhicks76 May 2016 #26

Kick your enemy when he's down and he's 'inspired' to get back up? randome May 2016 #34

It's a club. nt thereismore May 2016 #76

It will be a shame, but the GOP will soldier on..with help from their "friends" mountain grammy May 2016 #31

We don't need a one party system. A weakened GOP is good enough for me. alfredo May 2016 #38

Totally agree we do not want a one party system yeoman6987 May 2016 #57

They don't have the capacity to self correct. It is never their own fault. alfredo May 2016 #68

lol Cosmocat May 2016 #106

Great read. thanks for posting. spooky3 May 2016 #54

People can talk all they want about how this is the end for the repug party mdbl May 2016 #55

I love this piece Cosmocat May 2016 #108

Another Taibbi Masterpiece Leith May 2016 #65

That fucker Cruz embaces his insane father but not his wife. Look! thereismore May 2016 #78

"I know nothing about either Republicans or small towns", the article. Shandris May 2016 #82

I don't understand this. I am surprised at Taibbi, whom I enjoy greatly merrily May 2016 #90

My prediction: Republicans will get thrashed this year, but rebuild for the next election. backscatter712 May 2016 #94

06/08 Cosmocat May 2016 #109

I hope you're right, but the polls say otherwise.. mountain grammy May 2016 #112

They have been dead to ever since Tom McCall died. JEB May 2016 #95

I'm afraid that instead, this is a new dawn for the Republican party. Kablooie May 2016 #96

"They even sullied the word "American" by insisting they were the only real ones." C Moon May 2016 #97

The libertarian wing of the Republican Party is the most intellectually JDPriestly May 2016 #98

only issue I have (it is nitpicking sorta) is that it has NOT been 50 years of Rethug domination AntiBank May 2016 #104

K&R.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #111

The demise of the Republican Party is greatly exaggerated. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2016 #114