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In reply to the discussion: The organic industry’s GMO hoax [View all]HuckleB
(35,773 posts)255. I am pro-science, pro-environment, pro-earth.
You seem to prefer deforestation and pretending that organic foods do not use pesticides.
You seem to think demonizing foods with deceptive commentary is ok. I don't.
Yes, what you are promoting is silly, and that's being very kind.
The anti-GMO movement is funded by corporations, btw.
http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2016/01/the_greatest_hyopcrises_of_the_anti-gmo_moviement.html
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Honestly, I'm neutral on the GMO labeling issue unless its a big, obvious "warning" label that...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#95
One industry using the power of government to adversely affect another is a threat to everyone
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#118
Labeling laws informed by what corporations want aren't about giving consumers choice.
kcr
Mar 2016
#50
Foods are either genetically modified or not. It's very simple. The public has a right to know.
CentralMass
Mar 2016
#166
Your corporate funded studies are irrelevant. Public opinion strongly favors labelling..
CentralMass
Mar 2016
#172
Hundreds of them are not funded by any corporation. You are choosing ignorance.
HuckleB
Mar 2016
#230
Conspiracy theory nutcases, yes, we are all paid by Monsanto, but the benefits suck.
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#242
In other words, you prefer to ignore the actual content of my posts, not to mention science.
HuckleB
Mar 2016
#252
So I had a look at your posts, and I see you are pro-pesticide, pro-GMO, and anti-organic
lagomorph777
Mar 2016
#254
Yeah, MSG is one of the most prolific amino acids that is present in foods, if its poison...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#14
Your selective reading due to your bias will never let you see anything you don't agree with.
Thor_MN
Mar 2016
#61
I'd prefer to buy it locally if possible, I am curious if your observations are accurate...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#112
It's amazing to find that some people are so emotionally invested in defending MSG. n/t
Hugin
Mar 2016
#109
Nothing to do with intelligence, just education, there's nothing in MSG to cause the symptoms...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#103
Well, what they "don't like" is East Asian cuisine taking over traditional Sinhala and Tamil cuisine
Recursion
Mar 2016
#208
And? Its interesting that it has more than one use. Not relevant to the argument...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#209
Hydrogen hydroxide is a commonly used food additive that's also used as an industrial solvent
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#272
You do realize that foods with MSG in it aren't all labeled as such, correct?
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#93
Uhm, those aren't all other names for MSG, MSG is Monosodium Glutamate...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#104
See, this belies what should be the purpose of labeling, you want GMOs banned, for no better...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#15
You want to keep people from getting information they say they want. It's as simple as that.
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#150
The information they want isn't the information they would be getting from a gmo label.
ZombieHorde
Mar 2016
#173
GMO labeling in the US isn't currently mandatory, so of course there's no harm there.
ZombieHorde
Mar 2016
#176
I meant that I don't believe you or anyone could show harm if this became a law.
DisgustipatedinCA
Mar 2016
#179
The exact same labeling argument can be made for "fertilized with cow shit"
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#184
Ah. I should have guessed your intent, but I was posting right before leaving for work and
ZombieHorde
Mar 2016
#205
I would say I have less of a problem with those labels, most people will end up ignoring them as...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#211
Hah! The magazine writer got suckered into parroting a standard GMO industry lie. Foof.
AxionExcel
Mar 2016
#13
Certified Organic vegetables, particularly low to the ground ones, should have a...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#18
Neither is hybridization, cell fusion, mutation breeding, polyploidy, or several other methods
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#276
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, real energy going to GMOs should be harnessed to
LuckyLib
Mar 2016
#19
Uhm, non-smokers live longer than smokers, generally due to complications from smoking....
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#74
Of course, but these are, generally, localized events affecting few people...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#212
Agreed - Check this recent report on France banning neonicotinoid pesticides
womanofthehills
Mar 2016
#102
And that's why the vast majority of scientists also understand that GMOs are safe.
HuckleB
Mar 2016
#273
Actually, based on the content of your post, for you, it's about the propaganda of some marketers.
HuckleB
Mar 2016
#237
Required labeling is not corporations communicating, it's the goverment communicating
Thor_MN
Mar 2016
#149
If the communication isn't supported by a science-based justification, it's meaningless.
HuckleB
Mar 2016
#154
No, no breaks, you use arguments from ignorance, discredited studies, and cognitive bias...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#240
You say you wants science yet you seem to believe that there is a mass conspiracy against GMOs
GreatGazoo
Mar 2016
#25
well the last thing i want to see is wasted food. especially food that is fine to eat.
mopinko
Mar 2016
#199
This bit about science for hire sounds like something only a bigger industry than organics could do:
yurbud
Mar 2016
#35
If I'm concerned about GMOs, I assume anything without the label "100% Organic% has GMOs.
Hoyt
Mar 2016
#43
wow this could rank up with should we declaw our cats when they get circumcised
dembotoz
Mar 2016
#44
Are you telling me tangelos were created in a lab, by directly manipulating DNA?
SusanCalvin
Mar 2016
#83
Directly manipulating DNA means more control, unlike with mutation breeding, where the effects...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#92
I think a lot of this push for not just GMO labeling but food denialism in general is due to...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#96
How about those produced by exposing seeds to mutagens including chemicals and/or radiation?
X_Digger
Mar 2016
#124
a big part of the modifying is to make it "Round Up ready" & that stuff is bad for you
yurbud
Mar 2016
#55
Round Up? Google Round Up human health effects. NIH has one study that says it messes up embyos
yurbud
Mar 2016
#79
Gilles-Eric Seralini is a fraud who has been on an Anti-GMO crusade since 1999...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#82
Because they publish everyone with only minimal oversight, anyone can get published....
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#117
People are idiotically scared of GMOs in general when the actual issue is the fucking Glyophosate...
Odin2005
Mar 2016
#76
And they import 84 percent of their food as of 2007, not exactly a model for sustainability...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#89
Yes they are, farming is one of the most environmentally destructive things we can do...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#86
Personally, I believe consumers should be provided with as much information as possible.
OZi
Mar 2016
#107
If it's such a great thing to fertilize food with cow shit, why not advertise that fact?
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#123
So you prefer to poison the environment - sounds like a Republican thing to me
womanofthehills
Mar 2016
#203
Not sure of your argument, you do know the Organic industry uses pesticides as well, right?
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2016
#213
Until the law requires that ALL GMO research be published, not just that favorable
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#125
There should be such a requirement for the pharmaceutical industry, too, and any other industry
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#131
I added another link. And it talks about how researchers conducting registered trials have NOT been
pnwmom
Mar 2016
#140
I'm sure you consider Consumer Reports a shill for the industry, but here's what they said...
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#219
Never trust a huge conglomerate to have the clients best interest at heart. That is universal.
Rex
Mar 2016
#186
Actually I'm surprised it took this long for someone to channel Seralini in this thread
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#218
You are correct, there is no claim of safety, which is why Blue Meany's assertion is strawman
Major Nikon
Mar 2016
#234