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In reply to the discussion: This is why so many Americans are angry at and frustrated with those with wealth and power [View all]FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)73. I present information like anyone else here. Keep in mind the real decline in the last 35
years of American middle class living standards. Right in line with the rise of the RW think tanks, DLC and the Democratic party's rightward corporate-friendly people poor drift.
Many are aware of the con, to varying degrees, else Bernie and Trump would not be doing as well as they are. It's not paranoia when you can prove it by many different measures and programs put into place. It is stupidity to ignore it; especially for a very problematic candidate like Hillary.
If people choose to ignore this and because they treat politics like a football game and go with their team regardless of reality, or are so conditioned when they hear the word "conspiracy" thrown about all reasoning stops, that is their problem. Life will have to teach them as this country continues to devolve to Appalachian/3rd world living standards. Even then many will not connect the dots and be ripe for demagogues like Trump, or almost any Republican, because the opposition just offers more of the same ol' shit.
Now you are not talking about your self, of course. But all you offer is anecdotes "...because you talk to most people...", well, so can I, but so what? I also offer you a link to a decent page showing some of what has been going on. Thee's always more information to be found, but that's up to you to find out for yourself, or not. God forbid you might think you are entertaining "conspiracy" or be "almost like right wingers", better to stay ignorant!
Many are aware of the con, to varying degrees, else Bernie and Trump would not be doing as well as they are. It's not paranoia when you can prove it by many different measures and programs put into place. It is stupidity to ignore it; especially for a very problematic candidate like Hillary.
If people choose to ignore this and because they treat politics like a football game and go with their team regardless of reality, or are so conditioned when they hear the word "conspiracy" thrown about all reasoning stops, that is their problem. Life will have to teach them as this country continues to devolve to Appalachian/3rd world living standards. Even then many will not connect the dots and be ripe for demagogues like Trump, or almost any Republican, because the opposition just offers more of the same ol' shit.
Now you are not talking about your self, of course. But all you offer is anecdotes "...because you talk to most people...", well, so can I, but so what? I also offer you a link to a decent page showing some of what has been going on. Thee's always more information to be found, but that's up to you to find out for yourself, or not. God forbid you might think you are entertaining "conspiracy" or be "almost like right wingers", better to stay ignorant!
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This is why so many Americans are angry at and frustrated with those with wealth and power [View all]
YoungDemCA
Mar 2016
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Guilt is not the reason our wages have been stagnant for 35 years, that is called Blaming The Victim
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#18
not the whole time. "with the exception of a period of strong across-the-board wage growth"
Amimnoch
Mar 2016
#19
My family's wages did not go up during that time. Some wages went up, many did NOT! Many
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#21
No, I'm saying my wages nor my spouses wages have gone up since the 1980s, blue collar.
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#51
That does seem to be the only period since 1980 when real wages for manufacturing workers increased.
pampango
Mar 2016
#24
OMG my husband does more in one day than all the workers in his shop, then he comes home and
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#52
I don't just claim my husband works hard, I avow that he works his ass off. Discussing American
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#60
"58. No I do not, geez I was merely commenting on why average mass of Americans allows this
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#74
It appears Bernie supporters are just wiser to the long con going on than Hillary sheeple, like you!
FighttheFuture
Mar 2016
#62
I present information like anyone else here. Keep in mind the real decline in the last 35
FighttheFuture
Mar 2016
#73
You are so right. This place is going to be as boring and useless as anything once we
JDPriestly
Mar 2016
#56
I've heard the goal of Republicans is to lower the minimum wage to $3.50 an hour.
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2016
#35
That's an awesome idea if one's an asshat who cares nothing about an economic future.
HughBeaumont
Mar 2016
#42
We will get our representation, somehow, some day. Smart folks in the Dem Party should take notice.
highprincipleswork
Mar 2016
#40
Remember when they claimed the Alaska Pipeline would eliminate Middle East oil dependency?
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2016
#67
WHY REAGAN KILLED THE UNIONS FOR CRAPITALISM. off shoring is a GOOD THING FOR
pansypoo53219
Mar 2016
#64
Democratic Leadership is hell bent on sending as many jobs to India and China and Mexico as possible
whereisjustice
Mar 2016
#65