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In reply to the discussion: I bet I know why Warren claimed Native American heritage. [View all]HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)41. There were more black people in Oklahoma in 1907 than NA. Why does no one go searching
Last edited Fri Jun 1, 2012, 10:45 PM - Edit history (3)
for their black ancestors?
OK has been majority white since before 1890. Whites were 80% of the population of Oklahoma in 1907. Blacks were 12%. Indians were 9%. So I think it's relatively easy to be from OK and not have Indian ancestry.
p. 8
http://www2.census.gov/prod2/decennial/documents/1907pop_OK-IndianTerritory.pdf
There are only 13 states today where the NA population is over 1%. Of those, there is only one (AK) where it's over 10%, and only 6 where it's over 5%, all except AK because of the presence of large reservations that were big enough and isolated enough and seemingly "worthless" enough to survive the land grabbers (OK, AZ, NM, AK, SD, MT).
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Most people don't have it documented, but there was a lot of interracial coupling in the west
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#17
no, there wasn't, unless you're going back to the age of exploration. In 1800 only 3% of the
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#24
I could care less about individual cases. I'm just saying that a lot of the people claiming NA
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#31
Why is this so important to you? Is it a bad thing that white people are no longer ashamed to think
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#35
anyone who had ancestors in the us before 1900 is more likely to have had ancestors that
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#40
Where in then history of the world have there been cultures who didn't clash, kill, and intermarry?
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#43
beside the point, but you know that already. i repeat, white people's ancestors are more likely
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#45
"many" = how many and how many generations back, and how many documented? because
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#50
You have more confidence in the public records of the 1800's than I do. And in the willingness
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#51
The history of the US demonstrates that it was. For example, ~700-1000 were killed/sold to the
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#56
Why is it minimizing it to compare it to the genocide that's gone down through the centuries?
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#47
And in each generation, NA are a decreasing fraction of the total population = decreasing
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#55
canada also had censuses & other forms of documentation. i'm not saying it's always possible
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#13
I went to a geneological society in NH that specializes in French-Canadian family history
rox63
Jun 2012
#15
because there are indian censuses, regular censuses, appendixes to censuses that document
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#25
the inconsistencies in the records don't explain why every second white person has an NA
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#28
Where do you get your statistic that "every second white person has an NA ancestor"
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#30
Many courthouses and government records were destroyed during the Civil War.
Major Hogwash
Jun 2012
#33
Another issue is that the initial Cherokee registry arbitrarily included some Cherokees
pnwmom
Jun 2012
#37
Is that because of the legal issues inherent when claiming to be a Cherokee.
Major Hogwash
Jun 2012
#42
Exactly. Her family had always told her she had some Native American ancestry, and she felt proud.
Mister Ed
Jun 2012
#9
not unless everyone were living a traditional life. but you could say the same thing about any
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#29
There were more black people in Oklahoma in 1907 than NA. Why does no one go searching
HiPointDem
Jun 2012
#41