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uhnope

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110. Do you realize the effect might be the opposite of what you want?

Mon Nov 30, 2015, 06:07 PM

Nov 2015

When people find out that the headline, text and petition are misleading, they might switch from sympathetic and supportive to angry and callous. You might lose people that you hoped to persuade. And next time those people might not listen to a cry for help because they've been burned before. That's not what you want, right?

That's why, if you're smart, you'll delete this.

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Judge Gives Man 60 Years In Prison For Driving With Suspended License [View all] KamaAina Nov 2015 OP

Is it a for-profit prison? louis-t Nov 2015 #1

If true, this judge wiped out almost all of this young man's life, he also ladjf Nov 2015 #2

it's not true uhnope Nov 2015 #122

What isn't true, the sentence or one or both of my comments. nt ladjf Dec 2015 #128

It is the weapons charge that got him the lengthy sentence. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #131

the OP is not true uhnope Dec 2015 #132

Petition at link. Sign it Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #3

In Florida, the max sentence for driving on a suspended license is 60 days. Calista241 Nov 2015 #4

It does seem long tammywammy Nov 2015 #5

sixty years is too long for any offense that is not violent 2pooped2pop Nov 2015 #8

So he was already convicted of a felony previously - we do not know what that crime was. Tipperary Nov 2015 #16

One of the comments on this article had that info tammywammy Nov 2015 #21

Possession of weapon or ammo by Convicted felon! longship Nov 2015 #22

That is very strange fasttense Nov 2015 #52

It is pretty standard that felons are not allowed. longship Nov 2015 #54

Really? All 50 states? fasttense Nov 2015 #88

Actually, I am not sure. longship Nov 2015 #97

Silly, that's only for white felons in Florida. Black felons in Florida are still subject valerief Nov 2015 #79

Oh, that explains it. n/t fasttense Nov 2015 #119

Don't you get it? It's just Kirk and Spock talking in code. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #34

What is he on probation for? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #6

Possession of a weapon and ammunition by a felon. Iggo Nov 2015 #9

Seems too long but... Renew Deal Nov 2015 #10

I don't know what the original felony was. Iggo Nov 2015 #11

RenewDeal: so fucking what? SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #14

We don't have enough information. EDIT: Now we do... Renew Deal Nov 2015 #19

Apparently the weapon that he was in possession of is one that he stole from someone's house. Tipperary Nov 2015 #30

60 years sounds about right... virginia mountainman Nov 2015 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Nov 2015 #59

Did you mean to respond here? Renew Deal Nov 2015 #65

no sorry uhnope Nov 2015 #69

Yes, someone could look up Florida Law treestar Nov 2015 #100

I would venture to say that all of his priors are felonies. Hepburn Nov 2015 #120

If he was already a convicted of a felony, on probabation, and commits a new crime? Waldorf Nov 2015 #41

Death penalty the motherfucker! He's a repeat offender! Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #20

I think it's a 2011 no-weapon robbery incident struggle4progress Nov 2015 #89

That's insane.. whathehell Nov 2015 #7

This is some fucked up shit. jalan48 Nov 2015 #12

my daughter did that Pharaoh Nov 2015 #13

does your daughter have a mile long rap sheet? Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #130

wow. what was your daughter on probation for? eom yawnmaster Dec 2015 #136

Was your daughter on probation for multiple felonies? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #138

Hands up, don't shoot. Kid was unarmed. Judge is a stinking coward. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2015 #15

Must be election season Mendocino Nov 2015 #17

Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Nov 2015 #18

The Onion is probably more reliable than countercurrentnews Bonx Nov 2015 #23

Fine. Attack the source. KamaAina Nov 2015 #25

What can I say ? It's a terrible source. Bonx Nov 2015 #26

It's all over teh intertubes. KamaAina Nov 2015 #27

Ok, then link an actual news source instead of a crap blog Bonx Nov 2015 #28

All the links I can find seem to be on blogs KamaAina Nov 2015 #29

I would. Bonx Nov 2015 #31

no, you've been shown that the OP is a lie and yet you keep pushing the lie. nt uhnope Nov 2015 #121

When the source intentionally leaves out pertinent facts mythology Nov 2015 #32

Self delete? looks like this is based on a lie uhnope Nov 2015 #74

No, the probation violation was driving with a suspended license KamaAina Nov 2015 #76

why don't you post a news article with more info so we can judge for ourselves uhnope Nov 2015 #78

I can't find one. KamaAina Nov 2015 #80

then it's irresponsible not to self-delete uhnope Nov 2015 #85

People post online petitions here all the time. KamaAina Nov 2015 #94

Do you realize the effect might be the opposite of what you want? uhnope Nov 2015 #110

Uh, nope. KamaAina Nov 2015 #112

Don't, but instead of having an actual discusion on prison and sentencing reform nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #115

The court records show two re-arrests associated with probation violations struggle4progress Nov 2015 #102

That's bull. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #125

Prove the link and info is wrong or quit fucking whining. nt Logical Nov 2015 #106

Is this a joke reply ? Bonx Nov 2015 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Jun 2016 #137

This is totally fucked up gopiscrap Nov 2015 #24

Calm down and see response #9. longship Nov 2015 #33

Ved-dy in-ta-resting. KamaAina Nov 2015 #36

He's obviously a virulent racist Bonx Nov 2015 #39

He does indeed have a reputation as a virulent racist KamaAina Nov 2015 #42

I would use change.org petitions for all my 'He's a RACIST!!!" needs Bonx Nov 2015 #44

LOL. yr proof is the same lack of proof. I think yr working for the other side, actually. uhnope Nov 2015 #124

I did say that I wasn't judging the 60 year sentence. longship Nov 2015 #43

You don't want him on the street? For how long? nt Logical Nov 2015 #107

That is for the judge and appeals court to decide. longship Nov 2015 #109

This wasn't about driving with suspended license Android3.14 Nov 2015 #37

+1. I'm waiting for another source. I know very little about this Counter Current News blog 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #46

Here's everything you need to know about countercurrentnews.com Bonx Nov 2015 #48

... SoapBox Nov 2015 #38

If the kid (young man) has a felony, no surprise there, African Americans are felonized by our randys1 Nov 2015 #40

Blame the system? I blame the person committing the crimes. See post #82. The guy is a repeat Waldorf Nov 2015 #108

This guy is not a victim. Tipperary Nov 2015 #117

What a fool. Vinca Nov 2015 #45

He has a criminal history, this was not just for a suspended drivers licence nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #47

The title is intentionally misleading. He violated supervision and committed multiple felonies. NightWatcher Nov 2015 #49

As soon as I saw the words 'violated probation' I knew there was more to the story. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #103

Here's the court records for him Quackers Nov 2015 #50

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments tclambert Nov 2015 #51

he's getting kickbacks from the prison industry Doctor_J Nov 2015 #53

follow the money... shanti Nov 2015 #81

Unbelievable. And Bush and CO. walk free. Paper Roses Nov 2015 #55

these petitions have no link to the news article -- it would be good to know if it's true uhnope Nov 2015 #56

There is no news article Bonx Nov 2015 #57

The story is bogus! 4139 Nov 2015 #58

But your facts detract from the Wow Factor the OP was going for NightWatcher Nov 2015 #61

You've got to wonder why he was pulled over in the first place KamaAina Nov 2015 #60

I wonder why you are continuing to slander this guy Bonx Nov 2015 #66

The judge didn't pull him over. Cops did. KamaAina Nov 2015 #68

Everyone is apparently a racist until they prove to you they aren't Bonx Nov 2015 #70

Well, everyone who acts like a racist. KamaAina Nov 2015 #72

Or you think someone may have said they heard someone saying Bonx Nov 2015 #75

you got it. The OP just wants to increase divisions between people and call everyone racist uhnope Nov 2015 #123

OP does that constantly melman Dec 2015 #133

Actually, they do have some high-tech scanner (sort of) Heeeeers Johnny Nov 2015 #104

But his plates weren't expired KamaAina Nov 2015 #105

Did you read what I posted? Heeeeers Johnny Nov 2015 #111

I think it's right there in the charges (post #58 above). bluedigger Nov 2015 #126

Unfortunately, the news source that you believed omitted a lot: i.e., parole, felonies, weapon, etc. xocet Nov 2015 #62

This is Florida. Who gets 60 years for a weapons charge down there? KamaAina Nov 2015 #63

What are you arguing? Start with facts and argue from there. Then people will say - yeah 60 yrs... xocet Nov 2015 #64

I'm arguing that he got the maximum possible sentence because he's black KamaAina Nov 2015 #67

As I said, good luck if you start without the facts... n/t xocet Nov 2015 #73

Seems he got the maximum possible sentence because he is a repeat criminal. Waldorf Nov 2015 #87

Self delete? looks like this is based on a lie uhnope Nov 2015 #71

9 felony convictions by age 23? Hell no, he can stay in prison LittleBlue Nov 2015 #77

consequences are a bitch sometimes Facility Inspector Dec 2015 #129

Is this Herbert Lee John Smith DOB 03/27/1992? struggle4progress Nov 2015 #82

That is quite the record. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #91

He may not be very bright. He got probation on a robbery charge. Then he struggle4progress Nov 2015 #101

Sounds Like There's a Back Story november3rd Nov 2015 #83

"The sentencing judge, Matthew Destry, presides over the Broward County Clerk of Courts." Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #84

That would be the Howard C. Forman mentioned in the petition. KamaAina Nov 2015 #90

Judge Destry does not "preside over" the Clerk of Courts Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #93

Okay, so the petitioner doesn't know the ins and outs of the Broward County judicial system KamaAina Nov 2015 #95

It's not the petitioner, it's the author of this bogus article who doesn't know his head from a hole Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #98

Note that he was on probation for the weapons charge at the time. KamaAina Nov 2015 #86

Thanks for the info on the charge. Hepburn Nov 2015 #96

What was the underlying charge for the probation? Hepburn Nov 2015 #92

Here are his prior charges noted in post 35 LittleBlue Nov 2015 #99

Bit of a sleeve there. Hepburn Nov 2015 #118

Dime on dollar this is mandatory sentencing at work nadinbrzezinski Nov 2015 #127

Didn't have to look malaise Nov 2015 #113

Except its looking like it isn't. The guy has lots of arrests, including burglary, grand theft of a Waldorf Nov 2015 #116

Good. Why wasn't he given 60 years the first time he Kang Colby Dec 2015 #134

One less gun nut on the street. He didn't want to give up his guns, now he will go to jail for it. Township75 Dec 2015 #135