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(5,751 posts) Mon Oct 26, 2015, 08:10 AM Oct 2015

Noam Chomsky Nails Why the GOP Has Fallen Off the Deep End [View all]

http://www.alternet.org/noam-chomsky-nails-why-gop-has-fallen-deep-end

"The Republican party, about twenty years ago, basically abandoned any pretense of being a normal political party," Chomsky noted. "Their only policies are don't do anything or bomb. That's not a political party."

Chomsky described how Republicans gravitated toward an increasingly radical base in the 1980s and '90s.

"[Republicans] became so dedicated to the interests of the extreme wealthy and powerful that they couldn't get votes. So they had to turn to other constituencies, which were always there but were never politically mobilized. So they turned to Christian evangelicals, the nativists who are afraid they're taking our country away from us. People who are so terrified they have to carry a gun in a coffee shop."

The Democratic party has also undergone a profound transformation.

"Today's mainstream Democrats are pretty much what used to be called Republicans. Somebody like Eisenhower would be considered way out on the left," he noted, explaining that Eisenhower supported New Deal programs, while modern-day Republicans are eternally trying to gut the safety net.

I would surmise that Hillary is to the far right of Eisenhower. Think about that, Clintonistas.

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Noam Chomsky Nails Why the GOP Has Fallen Off the Deep End [View all] Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 OP

Had to get your shot in brucefan Oct 2015 #1

Just following the pattern of the Clintonistas constant cheap shots against Bernie. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #7

"He did it too!" is famously popular in grade-school. LanternWaste Oct 2015 #19

Bringing Hillary into this discussion is silly. madaboutharry Oct 2015 #2

I made a valid point - I wish people weren't so misinformed. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #8

There's no question that Hillary is to the right of Ike. Scuba Oct 2015 #3

You clearly dont know much about Ike then. randys1 Oct 2015 #27

You clearly don't get Hillary. Ike warned us about the MIC. When has Hillary done that? Scuba Oct 2015 #37

Would you like to lay out 10 or 20 issues and show us what Ike and her positions are? randys1 Oct 2015 #38

Ike never hung around with Pete Peterson. Scuba Oct 2015 #43

No, you are the one who claims Hillary is to the right. So I need prove nothing. randys1 Oct 2015 #50

Pro-war, pro-Wall Street, pro-fracking, pro-Keystone XL, pro-H1B Visas. Too far right for me. Scuba Oct 2015 #61

So still nothing. How about admit your statement is wrong, and that she is still too randys1 Oct 2015 #62

Has she called out the MIC yet? Or just taken their money? Scuba Oct 2015 #63

Hillary has called for abolishing Social Security? Or did she and many many DC randys1 Oct 2015 #64

Get your head out of the sand and open your eyes. Scuba Oct 2015 #65

Is that you Trey Gowdy? redstateblues Oct 2015 #4

Is that you Hillary? Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #9

I seriously doubt Ike was for gay marriage. NT arely staircase Oct 2015 #5

I don't. He was a very good and fair man. Probably before Hillary was. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #10

You're calling Hillary Clinton a man? Orrex Oct 2015 #23

More made up BULLSHIT. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #34

You have indeed made up a lot of bullshit Orrex Oct 2015 #36

You do know that calling people out is against the TOS? Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #39

Gotcha! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #52

Gee, how cool is it for the Democratic Party to have marriage equality to brag about! What would you Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #58

K&R G_j Oct 2015 #6

Yes. This is the same false choice we've had for years. DirkGently Oct 2015 #11

Why We Got Here colsohlibgal Oct 2015 #12

Anyone who claims Hillary is to the right of IKE needs to be challenged. Please randys1 Oct 2015 #28

Ever heard of an opinion? That is mine. Now I know yours. Good bye. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #40

In all sincerity, I say things exaggerated and get called on it myself, so my goal randys1 Oct 2015 #46

Ike warned about the MIC, Hillary rewards it. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #47

Hasn't it always been moondust Oct 2015 #13

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #14

That was set off by "Clintonistas"? Look in the mirror. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #16

Yeah, yeah. Orrex Oct 2015 #17

Not with the likes of supporter like you. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #35

So you're voting Republican, then? Unsurprising. Orrex Oct 2015 #41

Wrong, Mr. Know-it-All. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #45

results Skeeter Barnes Oct 2015 #53

I will never vote Clinton. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #55

This could have been an interesting thread... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #15

If you've suffered through any of his other posts... Orrex Oct 2015 #21

I avoid GDP... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #24

Calling out other DUers is against the TOS Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #33

I'm stating like it is... joeybee12 Oct 2015 #48

Not true. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #49

It could have been very interesting if the Clintonistas hadn't tried to trash it. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #42

as surmise means to infer without evidence, your prophecy is no more nor no less valid LanternWaste Oct 2015 #18

Honestly, your niece's conjecture seems less far-fetched to me. Orrex Oct 2015 #22

"Clintonistas"??? That's enough of that goddamned shit!!! What the hell does that even mean ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #20

It means that the Dumper has embraced GOP mythology Orrex Oct 2015 #25

I'm just copying the "childish" taunt of Sandernistas I see here all the time! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #32

Once the Clintonistas stop calling us Sandernistas, I will be happy to stop. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #30

Two wrongs don't make it right. I don't care who started it. Do you know that derisive (let's be ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2015 #44

Good job. A k&r for this post. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #56

"Today's mainstream Democrats are pretty much what used to be called Republicans." villager Oct 2015 #26

And as the repub party falls apart, the "sane" ones may end up moving to our side. arcane1 Oct 2015 #29

So then will sane Demos -- who have a memory of what the Demo party was -- get to move, too? villager Oct 2015 #31

Indeed, I'd much prefer to keep the party and kick out the conservative ones. arcane1 Oct 2015 #51

It may be sarcasm but that's already begining to happen. PFunk1 Oct 2015 #59

But Republicans will tell you Democrats are more TexasBushwhacker Oct 2015 #54

Spot on Chomsky. PFunk1 Oct 2015 #57

And then there's the feedback loop ThoughtCriminal Oct 2015 #60

H. and B.Clinton are both to the far right of Ike. B.Clinton governed well to the right of Nixon. We Attorney in Texas Oct 2015 #66