Anyone with depressive disorder would hurt themselves first (Reply #17)

In the discussion thread: OK, who else is sick of the demonization of the mentally ill following shootings? [View all]

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Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:25 AM

xfundy (5,105 posts)

17. Anyone with depressive disorder would hurt themselves first

and would rarely direct their anger outward.

But, what a surprise, the Fox Noise crowd blames them instead of the gun and religion industries.

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103 replies	Author	Time	Post
OK, who else is sick of the demonization of the mentally ill following shootings? [View all]	backscatter712	Oct 2015	OP
By definition, a person who is capable and willing to shoot up a classroom...	TipTok	Oct 2015	#1
but that is a completely different case from the typical mental healthcare patient	paulkienitz	Oct 2015	#47
That's a good example of the classic strawman and the subtle dissembling shift from	HereSince1628	Oct 2015	#63
No one with "their ducks in a row" loves guns.	hunter	Oct 2015	#72
Your post was alerted.	MADem	Oct 2015	#100
Every time this happens it is the same story...someone	pipoman	Oct 2015	#2
And yet you seem to want to ignore the correlation of easy access to firearms	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#5
No, I recognize the reality of it...	pipoman	Oct 2015	#10
People would still have the desire. Just not the means.	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#14
It's not my work, it is constitutionally protected right with	pipoman	Oct 2015	#19
"The mentally ill" is a rather sweeping category	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#23
If they're peaceful and harmless they probably don't want guns anyway...	pipoman	Oct 2015	#26
Maybe they want a gun for the same reasons you do.	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#29
Violent people can't legally buy guns if they have a conviction	pipoman	Oct 2015	#32
...assuming the conviction gets in the NCIS database.	backscatter712	Oct 2015	#43
No, it's a recent rogue SCOTUS decision.	backscatter712	Oct 2015	#36
Agree there	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#39
the deadliest	lancer78	Oct 2015	#52
So are you proposing that guns should be banned altogether	TeddyR	Oct 2015	#101
Neither.	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#103
Should we ignore the correlation between	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#9
That isn't happening or likely, ignoring the mentally ill will not be acceptable	pipoman	Oct 2015	#13
+1	stage left	Oct 2015	#35
+1000	kairos12	Oct 2015	#91
I demonize those who manufacture, sell, and lobby for guns.	onehandle	Oct 2015	#3
I find that ridiculous	TeddyR	Oct 2015	#102
It's personal for me too, and I'm sick of it as well.	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#4
Wouldn't you rather be turned down for guns knowing it helps	yeoman6987	Oct 2015	#54
Now why don't you ask that question of the gun fanciers on DU?	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#59
Well there you go.	yeoman6987	Oct 2015	#66
I see more a minimization and/or trivializing of the seriousness of mental illness.	egduj	Oct 2015	#6
No, it's just that some of us don't like the stigmatization	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#16
It's not all about you. Should religious extremism not be condemned	snagglepuss	Oct 2015	#61
Wrong thread and wrong post.	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#64
I'm horrified by some suggestions	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#7
Now why shouldn't people with diagnosed mental illness	pipoman	Oct 2015	#15
You really want to deter people from seeking assistance with mental health issues?	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#18
A return to state facilities funded by feds	pipoman	Oct 2015	#21
So you want to lock up millions of people	Crunchy Frog	Oct 2015	#27
I love the liberty lovers	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#40
I can't support that.	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#34
+1 nt	Live and Learn	Oct 2015	#41
Um, that should be modernized.	backscatter712	Oct 2015	#37
How about we tell the NRA Fuck You and lock them up in a prison. Gun nutosis should be diagnosed	whereisjustice	Oct 2015	#49
That wouldn't amend the constitution..	pipoman	Oct 2015	#70
Well, that and the ability to ban the CDC's research on particular health matters.	LanternWaste	Oct 2015	#92
It's odd the disparities in your prophetic absolutes.	LanternWaste	Oct 2015	#90
Oh please	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#20
Glad to see you get the point	pipoman	Oct 2015	#22
Oh dear I've gotten the point years ago	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#25
That is what I'm saying	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#24
The NICS already is supposed to include everyone who has been involuntary committed right now	pipoman	Oct 2015	#28
I understand that	gwheezie	Oct 2015	#38
yep	pipoman	Oct 2015	#42
Okay, you asked the question and I will answer from the	jwirr	Oct 2015	#75
That was a thoughtful response	pipoman	Oct 2015	#87
And on what you just said I agree. Just wanted you to know	jwirr	Oct 2015	#88
I believe we need to mandate accurate reporting of	pipoman	Oct 2015	#93
Where do YOU draw the line?	jen63	Oct 2015	#84
I think the line shouldn't be drawn at mental illness at all.	backscatter712	Oct 2015	#94
Here, you and the science agree.	backscatter712	Oct 2015	#73
It wasn't a mentally ill person that committed that shooting.	NuclearDem	Oct 2015	#8
Totally agree and I want to add that in general the Mentally ill have more to fear from us	LostOne4Ever	Oct 2015	#11
I agree. I think if mental illness is going to be the main focus,	pacalo	Oct 2015	#12
Anyone with depressive disorder would hurt themselves first	xfundy	Oct 2015	#17
Sadly, that is not entirely true.	TM99	Oct 2015	#53
Well... John Holmes did live on, so did Dylan Roof (sp?), so did Nidal Hasan	HereSince1628	Oct 2015	#69
I'm totally sick of it.	stage left	Oct 2015	#30
BTW, you might enjoy this podcast	randys1	Oct 2015	#79
Thanks, randys1	stage left	Oct 2015	#97
K&R	me b zola	Oct 2015	#86
I think it's the guns	libodem	Oct 2015	#31
I'm sick of the guns.	Iggo	Oct 2015	#33
I don't see demonization	KT2000	Oct 2015	#44
Yep. I've said it before, I'll say it again:	TygrBright	Oct 2015	#45
I read your link and I've got one word for it:	stage left	Oct 2015	#99
Mass killings are commited by people with guns. I think that is 100% causal relationship.	whereisjustice	Oct 2015	#46
Like Andreas Lubitz?	Nuclear Unicorn	Oct 2015	#67
The stigma is definitely real.	KyleMcShades	Oct 2015	#48
I submit since the NRA cares so much about mental health, they should be the first ones to be	whereisjustice	Oct 2015	#50
Good one...and true	randys1	Oct 2015	#80
There are far too many people taking medication for depression to use them as scapegoats....	Spitfire of ATJ	Oct 2015	#51
Mental Healthcare in the US needs an overhaul	clayton72	Oct 2015	#55
This particular notion has been so successfully put out by the right that the NRA	Vinca	Oct 2015	#56
Unless you're mentalling ill and trying to purchase a myriad of firearms to go and kill	btrflykng9	Oct 2015	#57
anything but the fucking gunz.	Warren Stupidity	Oct 2015	#58
I think it is a subject that needs to be addressed	Marrah_G	Oct 2015	#60
Hey, being demonized is the first step toward political power, in the US LGBT people are demonized	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2015	#62
Mental illness exists everywhere, in every country.	frustrated_lefty	Oct 2015	#65
The single biggest factor is easy access to firearms for everyone.	alarimer	Oct 2015	#68
I don't think they are demonized	treestar	Oct 2015	#71
K&R I think the problem is that when people use this term	jwirr	Oct 2015	#74
Personally, I Demonize Congress/Reagan	fredamae	Oct 2015	#76
Don't confuse opinions about Big Pharma and its wares with opinions on the patient.	WinkyDink	Oct 2015	#77
Me. nt	kelliekat44	Oct 2015	#78
The mental illness is a society that has more guns than people.	randys1	Oct 2015	#81
Yep. But anything to talk about other than the 300 million lethal portable hideable GUNS will do.	Fred Sanders	Oct 2015	#85
+1 nt	stage left	Oct 2015	#95
Me! Me!	KamaAina	Oct 2015	#82
Yup.	zappaman	Oct 2015	#83
Plenty of people here demonize all gun owners	B2G	Oct 2015	#89
Fox is a Crazy-Maker, that's way different than having a mental illness.	Dont call me Shirley	Oct 2015	#96
Saying that this particular mentally ill person shouldn't have had access to guns	pnwmom	Oct 2015	#98

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