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57. Really?

Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:35 PM

Sep 2015

I didn't know that about the historians. I watched the entire series and it got difficult to sit through a whole segment, as he became increasingly more annoying. I know I definitely won't watch any other Neil Degrasse Tyson Vanity Shows. I wonder what Carl Sagan would have thought of it.

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University Scientists Caught Conspiring with Monsanto to Manipulate Public Opinion on GMOs [View all] RiverLover Sep 2015 OP

Good thing we have professor tenureship GummyBearz Sep 2015 #1

Tenure does not protect academic dishonesty. aikoaiko Sep 2015 #10

So why are these professors GummyBearz Sep 2015 #21

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #75

Not if those same scientists are bring in the big bucks with their research grants reformist2 Sep 2015 #26

Yes. It's a bit like the way that leagues looked the other way at steroid use. RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #31

"My brother-in-law thinks he's Woody Allen. We'd have him committed, but we need tblue37 Sep 2015 #44

If the $$s coming into the Unis is significant, they will do everything they can erronis Sep 2015 #28

Same way PBS and NPR were corrupted... hunter Sep 2015 #46

I'd suggest you educate yourself about what tenure really is kiva Sep 2015 #12

I've seen it first hand GummyBearz Sep 2015 #20

The biggest factor these days in obtaining tenure is how much $$$ they can bring in. reformist2 Sep 2015 #27

Yes. Neo-liberalism has infected our entire system. n/t RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #32

And I'm tenured faculty and have seen another kiva Sep 2015 #48

I've seen tenured faculty get fired too GummyBearz Sep 2015 #55

I'm on the other side of the school kiva Sep 2015 #67

Wow. I would think tenure would allow professors to reject this sort of money grubbing Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #76

One would hope 2naSalit Sep 2015 #2

The public in general is pliable. And its easier to believe all those rampant chemicals dispersed RiverLover Sep 2015 #4

Went back to Iowa some years ago and driving along jwirr Sep 2015 #18

It does, and its fascinating RiverLover Sep 2015 #34

Thank you. One of the worst parts of this is that they jwirr Sep 2015 #37

This Ohio resident agrees. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #36

Algae bloom has nothing to do with GMOs. progressoid Sep 2015 #82

Even an article such as this libodem Sep 2015 #3

I'm sure they're on their way. Don't forget: the science, the science! n/t DFW Sep 2015 #5

Ah, yes libodem Sep 2015 #7

Science is self-correcting and the best methodology we have to find the truth. Gore1FL Sep 2015 #64

Mother may have made a nice Sunday dinner so it may be awhile before they get back downstairs Person 2713 Sep 2015 #62

OK, I'll bite. progressoid Sep 2015 #66

"They're Here!!!!" PatSeg Sep 2015 #72

Not surprising laundry_queen Sep 2015 #6

It is disappointing. And The Times story left out the fact that Monsanto has given $1 million RiverLover Sep 2015 #9

also $5.5 million to Cornell to go after "Right to Know" GreatGazoo Sep 2015 #41

I think some of those "think tanks" KT2000 Sep 2015 #15

They are laundry_queen Sep 2015 #17

Crapadaemia at its finest. Octafish Sep 2015 #8

that's just 'cuz y'all aren't starry-eyed enough: your disbelief will drag us into a new Dark Age! MisterP Sep 2015 #11

I've always found it interesting which multi conglomerates we are supposed to have faith in Rex Sep 2015 #13

"B-b-but muh science-based approach!" Shandris Sep 2015 #14

We are the only County in the U.S.... bkkyosemite Sep 2015 #16

K&R. The technique has worked well to prevent action on climate change. Overseas Sep 2015 #19

Neil Degrasse Tyson PatSeg Sep 2015 #22

NDT badly needs to be educated on this issue. Duppers Sep 2015 #50

They both should have known PatSeg Sep 2015 #56

Actually, it was getting educated on the issue, that caused him to support GMOs. progressoid Sep 2015 #68

Watch This Researcher PatSeg Sep 2015 #70

Jeffery Smith. LOL! progressoid Sep 2015 #73

Mockery, LOL PatSeg Sep 2015 #77

Yes, mockery. It's hard to take someone seriously who posits, progressoid Sep 2015 #81

Yeah those ignorant PHD bastids should listen to the great unwashed slanted luddites. CBGLuthier Sep 2015 #80

heck, had this been 1994 Tyson would never have told us to doubt corpo-funded science MisterP Sep 2015 #54

Really? PatSeg Sep 2015 #57

a lot of them do blame Seth MacFarlane for the fracas more than Tyson, who's not so "ideological" MisterP Sep 2015 #63

this is utter bull shit.... mike_c Sep 2015 #23

Indeed. The attack in the OP is the actual unethical act here. HuckleB Sep 2015 #24

The BS is Monanto & Bayer making million$ and not caring they're putting US & the environment RiverLover Sep 2015 #29

I shouldn't have to tell a college professor to brush up on the meaning of conspiracy. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #38

Just like grinding up old tires and spreading them on soccer fields? mhatrw Sep 2015 #39

Excellent point mhatrw. RiverLover Sep 2015 #49

Also from the NYT article DirkGently Sep 2015 #45

The "ALL GMOS GOOD! ALL OPPOSITION UNSCIENTIFIC!" chant doesn't work for me. hunter Sep 2015 #47

There is a clear conflict of interest when the researchers are benefiting financially pnwmom Sep 2015 #53

There's nothing wrong with corporations funding research on their products. RichVRichV Sep 2015 #60

Yeah, quid pro quo doesn't exist. nt Duppers Sep 2015 #74

Naomi Oreskes Merchants Of Doubt cantbeserious Sep 2015 #25

K & R. Thanks for the important reminder. Need to check this out, asap. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #30

Recommend a whole bunch! nt Zorra Sep 2015 #33

I know where ever you are on the internet be prepared to argue with paid sockpuppets Enthusiast Sep 2015 #35

Don't label them as paid shills. mhatrw Sep 2015 #40

True. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #43

Best comment of the thread!!!! PatSeg Sep 2015 #83

It doesn't pass the smell test. Like getting into a fist fight over Coke vs Pepsi, it only makes GoneFishin Sep 2015 #51

Why not just Ichigo Kurosaki Sep 2015 #58

I think people could go for that. It could be like "gluten-free", lol. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #59

Also they seem to working PatSeg Sep 2015 #71

I'm so glad others can see through this ruse. I encountered it during my earliest days on the net. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #78

I fell for their routines PatSeg Sep 2015 #79

"CONSPIRING." WinkyDink Sep 2015 #42

Big K & R Duppers Sep 2015 #52

For some reason they couldn't buy so many academics in Europe, China, etc. but here in NA hands out Person 2713 Sep 2015 #61

How do you know they couldn't buy academics in Europe, China, etc.? progressoid Sep 2015 #65

I wrote not so many (not enough to stop the current labeling laws ) although UK is readdressing Person 2713 Sep 2015 #69