Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

RandySF

(60,326 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:56 PM Sep 2015

Salon: Can you become addicted to your vibrator? [View all]

She likens her reliance on the toy to her alcohol addiction; both, she writes, made her life unmanageable. I’m not going to argue that someone continue doing something that makes them feel bad about themselves, but there are disturbing implications in Michaels’ piece.

According to Carlyle Jansen, author of masturbation how-to book Sex Yourself and founder/sex coach at Toronto sex toy store Good For Her, the first thing we need to look at is the definition of addiction. She cited Wikipedia’s: “a state characterized by compulsive engagement in rewarding stimuli, despite adverse consequences.” Compulsive might mean a woman’s repeatedly late to work cause she’s too busy vibing it up, or wants to stay home rather than go out with friends, á la the rabbit vibe episode of Sex and the City, where Charlotte defends herself, saying, “it’s a vibrator; it’s not like it’s crack.”

Jansen says it’s natural to get used to using a toy, like Michaels did, because “nothing simply human can compare to the RPM of most vibrators.” That doesn’t mean she’s “addicted.” Another possible explanation? “It might be that she’d get frustrated when her fingers didn’t get the same response,” explained Jansen. “When we get frustrated or anxious, our bodies shift into ‘fight or flight’ response and the blood flows out and away from the erectile tissue. Without the blood in the area, it becomes harder to orgasm, which leads to more frustration.” Then again, a woman may simply be wired to like that type of stimulation. “Some of us need glasses to see, others need calculators in order to do math. Some of us need a vibrator to orgasm,” said Jansen.

One of the biggest problems with Michaels’ framing is that vibrators are presumed to be “lesser than,” and therefore, somehow shameful to use on a long-term basis. She pits vibrator use against partnered sex, approvingly quoting Dr. Gilda Carle, who told her, “Use of a vibrator is momentarily satisfying. But it doesn’t answer the need for a partner to hold you, converse with you, commiserate with you, and love you.” Of course a vibrator isn’t going to provide the same sort of emotional support as a human being, but that doesn’t mean the two are at odds—or that they can’t be combined. By judging herself harshly, Michaels inhibits herself from fully enjoying her toy.


http://www.salon.com/2015/09/05/on_becoming_addicted_to_your_vibrator_partner/

59 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
No you dildon't. NuclearDem Sep 2015 #1
yowch Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #11
I think it is kind of sad if someone needs a toy to get off. I am not judging in any way because Tipperary Sep 2015 #2
By saying it's sad, you are judging Blue_Adept Sep 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author cwydro Sep 2015 #31
See post 40. I phrased my response very poorly and understand why you took it that way. Tipperary Sep 2015 #43
Why would what someone other than you does MineralMan Sep 2015 #7
sure, some people have hands that vibrate that fast naturally. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #19
Yes, you are exactly judging others as "sad" if they need a "toy to get off". cleanhippie Sep 2015 #20
Getting into or staying in a shitty relationship to get off is fucking sad. PeaceNikki Sep 2015 #21
Lol. Excellent point. cwydro Sep 2015 #29
It's not sad. It is very pleasant. roody Sep 2015 #27
How is saying it is sad not judging? uppityperson Sep 2015 #39
I used the wrong word and I can understand why people were offended. However, Tipperary Sep 2015 #40
Thank you for clarifying, perhaps go edit that word out so others will understand? And uppityperson Sep 2015 #45
The vibrator doesn't leave the toilet seat up. roody Sep 2015 #50
I am truly laughing out loud because I was telling a friend about this Tipperary Sep 2015 #51
Well, it is sad when you need a toy now, but didn't previously TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2015 #42
YES ! left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #4
Honestly, they need to build a robot massager that is actually built like a person. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Sep 2015 #12
who cares what one cares or doesn't care about? It's about the individual woman... CTyankee Sep 2015 #5
Why are we talking about this at all? MineralMan Sep 2015 #6
I support women who want to deal with the scourge of vibrator addiction in their quest Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #9
I'm not someone who wants to tell consenting adults that how they get their jollies is "wrong". Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #8
"finger wagging"... TeeYiYi Sep 2015 #14
if I were to tell you that my wording, there, was totally unintnentional and accidental-- Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #15
You know... Oilwellian Sep 2015 #13
you can always play Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #16
. merrily Sep 2015 #33
Why is it an either/or? sarisataka Sep 2015 #17
Toys for Twats 1939 Sep 2015 #22
Someone was clutching pearls over this one Demeter Sep 2015 #26
I was juror 6 marym625 Sep 2015 #30
Good call. The OP is about a woman and her vibrator, ffs. merrily Sep 2015 #34
yeah, I know marym625 Sep 2015 #36
Not at all the same as using the word with the intent to insult. merrily Sep 2015 #38
couldn't agree more! marym625 Sep 2015 #41
Whichever you like better. merrily Sep 2015 #44
lol marym625 Sep 2015 #48
I meant I was easy going. merrily Sep 2015 #56
I laughed. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #49
Now that's a Harley ride I could get into marym625 Sep 2015 #28
If I may say so...I rather think its yuiyoshida Sep 2015 #18
No, but -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #23
Bawhaha! marym625 Sep 2015 #25
Toys are wonderful things. marym625 Sep 2015 #24
I can't tell you how much money vibrators have cost me Scootaloo Sep 2015 #32
. merrily Sep 2015 #37
It's not only about a vibrator. You can become addicted to anything. merrily Sep 2015 #35
the human partner does not always treestar Sep 2015 #46
As John Sang: n2doc Sep 2015 #47
I knew a guy who was addicted to his shop-vac. n/t Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #52
Something like 4 million emergency room visits a year. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #55
Who says nature abhors a vacuum? Orrex Sep 2015 #57
A B.O.B. is preferable to a selfish guy who only cares about getting off himself. alarimer Sep 2015 #53
Mojo Nixon has a song about this condition. (nt) Heidi Sep 2015 #54
Now THIS guy knows how to vibrate! randome Sep 2015 #58
I know I'm late to the party, but check this out OxQQme Mar 2016 #59
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Salon: Can you become add...