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In reply to the discussion: Looking at the undisputed facts in the Zimmerman case and applying Zimmerman's original story [View all]Life Long Dem
(8,582 posts)10. I don't think much matters before they fought
That's when Zimmerman said he feared for his life and defended himself. Maybe Zimmerman's behavior was wrong in pursuing Trayvon as a suspect but not illegal. Whether Trayvon was doing nothing wrong before the incident is really irrelevant in my opinion. Trayvon also did nothing wrong the day before. But the fight and resulting broken nose is when the self defense law kicks in.
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Looking at the undisputed facts in the Zimmerman case and applying Zimmerman's original story [View all]
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
OP
So what is Martin's motive in chosing to ambush Zimmerman instead of retreating to safety?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#49
Well, at least you realize in a very backwards way the racial component of this case.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#72
Zimmerman is the one with history of violent assaults against other people, Trayvon's offenses
JI7
May 2012
#89
Yeah, it makes so much more sense that a kid with Skittles and tea went looking for a fight.
EOTE
May 2012
#94
Each time there is a new Trayvon thread, a member of MIRT should be assigned to babysit it.
stevenleser
May 2012
#63
Re: #3, I don't see any mention in the transcript that resembles telling Z not to exit his vehicle
slackmaster
May 2012
#3
No, there are other ways to be in that location. Perhaps he hid and waited to see what
uppityperson
May 2012
#28
Zimmy doesn't have to defend from every crackpot theory? Hahahaha. thank you MIRT. eom
uppityperson
May 2012
#33
Your are incorrect regarding the Police Dispatch ...it was not a " suggestion"
FarPoint
May 2012
#26
It wasn't a lawful order. Zimmerman was under no legal obligation to follow the advice.
slackmaster
May 2012
#30
Prove to me that we all can disregard the direction of an officer as desired ...
FarPoint
May 2012
#104
Officers can give ORDERS to people only under very limited circumstances, such as emergencies,
slackmaster
May 2012
#110
Your reply is presumptuous nonsense. You imply that Zimmerman broke a LAW by not following advice,
slackmaster
May 2012
#112
There's a difference between feeling pugnacious and being downright idiotic.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#19
Suspended for pot vs a person with a long history of violence, are you fucking kidding me?
Quixote1818
May 2012
#34
How was Trayvon bigger than Zimmerman? You keep saying that, what do you base that on?
uppityperson
May 2012
#21
How would Zimmerman lose sight of him? And Martin was not bigger than Zimmerman.
Quixote1818
May 2012
#23
I would have to go beyond the undisputed facts for speculation as to the timeline.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#53
You're going beyond the undisputed facts and into areas of some dispute.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#51
All the physical evidence merely does is establish that a struggle took place.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#102
But would you agree that Trayvon deciding to ambush Zimmerman out of the blue doesn't seem logical?
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#115
I think you are glossing over the fact that Trayvon was doing nothing wrong that evening.
Tommy_Carcetti
May 2012
#129
I don't know what happened, but a high school kid wanting to beat the crap out of some creep
Vattel
May 2012
#113
The defied logic comes in because of other circumstances you omitt in his situation.
vaberella
May 2012
#132