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friendly_iconoclast

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100. That's two factually incorrect statements you've got there, Hoyt

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 12:27 AM

Jul 2015

Gabby doesn't shoot nowadays. She's relegated to watching her husband shoot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/mark-kelly-gabrielle-giffords-guns_n_5909056.html

Mark Kelly: Even After Her Injury, Gabrielle Giffords' Relationship With Guns 'Has Not Changed'

...Despite sustaining a traumatic brain injury following a 2011 assassination attempt, former Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords isn’t wary of firearms.

In fact, she still shoots them, her husband Mark Kelly said in an interview with HuffPost Live on Tuesday.

But if you shot with Gabby, you'd probably have to help her hold the gun.

“Gabby’s a gun owner,” he said. “She’s been a gun owner for a long time. And when she couldn't shoot with her right hand anymore, she’ll shoot with her left. Just like she has to do everything with her left hand.”

CBS News has video of her and Kelly shooting at a range together:

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/gabby-giffords-speaks-four-years-into-her-recovery/

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Abdulazeez (Tennessee gunman) bought assault rifles online. [View all] brer cat Jul 2015 OP

They still have to go through an FFL before he could take them home Lurks Often Jul 2015 #1

Thank you for clarifying that. brer cat Jul 2015 #2

Sounds like some sloppy law-making, too gratuitous Jul 2015 #3

Guns are too easy to obtain brer cat Jul 2015 #6

Here is the ATF 4473 that a purchaser has to fill out Lurks Often Jul 2015 #8

Well, if we're ever fighting the same enemies from WWII gratuitous Jul 2015 #12

Like most gun controllers you resort to cheap personal attacks when Lurks Often Jul 2015 #28

No, it wasn't a cheap personal attack gratuitous Jul 2015 #39

Sure it was Lurks Often Jul 2015 #60

If, and only if gratuitous Jul 2015 #66

Another post short on facts, long on opinion and personal attacks Lurks Often Jul 2015 #72

We seem to have ceded the meaning of "assault rifle" to mean "semi-automatic." n/t Igel Jul 2015 #13

The lie was repeated enough. WaPo is a classic case of how terms are conflated in the same story. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #20

yep, just keep repeating the lie and it becomes true Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #27

I noticed that also. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #30

"Assault Rifle" means whatever the WaPo or NYT says, on any given day. Paladin Jul 2015 #32

Are their any other instances where you support imprecision of language? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #69

I don't allow right-wing political movements to control the vocabulary. Paladin Jul 2015 #70

Would those "right-wing political movements" include the Obama Administration? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #84

Pro-gun militants engaging in intellectual honesty? That'll be the day. Paladin Jul 2015 #88

Your attempt to go Jade Helm about "military-styled semi-auto(s)" isn't supported by fact friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #89

You lot don't get to use vocabulary as a means of intimidation any more. Paladin Jul 2015 #92

"Moral panic-mongering" isn't an insult, it is an accurate description friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #98

Intellectual Honesty? Best look in the mirror Lurks Often Jul 2015 #93

Pro-gun militancy is an overwhelmingly right-wing political movement. Paladin Jul 2015 #94

" I won't stand for your side's controlling the terminology of the debate" Yawn Lurks Often Jul 2015 #95

Don't expect any thanks in return. Paladin Jul 2015 #96

More noise and more dishonesty Lurks Often Jul 2015 #97

Guess who just referred to the shooter's gun as an "assault rifle"? Paladin Jul 2015 #103

If correct, it would be a once-in-a-decade event and merits close enquiry friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #105

In what way does the reporting imply he did not go through a NICS check? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #7

I suppose it is subjective Lurks Often Jul 2015 #9

No better way for a person to make themselves. sendero Jul 2015 #19

very true Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #29

not if it's a private purchase instate. dilby Jul 2015 #62

same as any newspaper or magazine ad Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #65

It depends on the state and the state law Lurks Often Jul 2015 #71

true here in Oregon we just past a law requiring dilby Jul 2015 #91

The media came right out of the gate with the NRA propaganda if they were armed doc03 Jul 2015 #4

More guns more guns! shenmue Jul 2015 #35

Once again, WaPo holding back certain info to allow misperceptions. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #5

I think when Doctors rx medications for depression, the Doctor should be required to inform Sunlei Jul 2015 #10

That is actually counter-productive. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #14

just an extra layer to the screening process for new guns. Let the professionals decide Sunlei Jul 2015 #15

We already have too much trouble getting people to seek help. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #17

I'm not saying that. This person family said he was 'on and off' his medication for depression Sunlei Jul 2015 #18

once again, people won't seek the medicine if they are put on databases. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #24

when the Doctor speaks with the family/patient they can ask, recommend the person be flagged. Sunlei Jul 2015 #25

You're completely avoiding the point.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #38

There is a 5th Amendment which protects due process; i.e., court orders to infringe a right. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #23

Depression is very common in the US it's possible it's a covariate rather than a cause HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #11

When even a Boston PD captain's son goes off the rails and wants jihad mainer Jul 2015 #16

Unless you eliminate private sales none of this will matter. nt Logical Jul 2015 #21

That is my chief complaint. brer cat Jul 2015 #22

We don't have enough information to know if it was a private sale or if a NICS check happened. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #63

He would have to go through an FFL and a federal background check Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #26

Yeah, but in most states he could have gone to a gun show, found seller who wasn't "in the business" Hoyt Jul 2015 #31

Just wondering TeddyR Jul 2015 #33

Well, and it's my opinion, if you have more than a few hunting rifles, you are likely too sick Hoyt Jul 2015 #34

So those eight guns in my safe make me sick? hack89 Jul 2015 #36

I guess I am sick too Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #37

I'm sorry you feel insulted. But fact is, by owning a number of gunz, and promoting gunz, Hoyt Jul 2015 #41

Point where I promote guns Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #42

You are doing it right here. Any criticism of gunz, brings you running to defend them. Hoyt Jul 2015 #43

I am defending the right Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #57

No, you defend gunz, including your gunz. Hoyt Jul 2015 #64

It's ironic that your avatar has a guy smoking... Adrahil Jul 2015 #53

I TeddyR Jul 2015 #56

I think it is similar to someone who drives a Hummer. You are contributing to gun pollution, just Hoyt Jul 2015 #40

Huge difference hack89 Jul 2015 #44

"Shooting those guns harms no one." ?? WTF?? ***Shooting*those*guns*killed*5*people***, ffs. nt Electric Monk Jul 2015 #45

We are talking about MY guns hack89 Jul 2015 #46

Do you train to shoot people, like most gun fanciers? Hoyt Jul 2015 #48

No hack89 Jul 2015 #50

I do not and my guns Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #58

Au contraire. At a minimum you are helping preserve the use of lethal weapons in our socoety. Hoyt Jul 2015 #47

If your side had better spokesmen hack89 Jul 2015 #49

Nope. Spokespersons like Brady, Giffords, Moms, etc., do a great job. Heck, people Hoyt Jul 2015 #51

I would love to go shooting with Gabby hack89 Jul 2015 #52

Gabby doesn't shoot nowadays. She's relegated to watching her husband shoot. He Hoyt Jul 2015 #54

She and I would have a lot in common hack89 Jul 2015 #55

That's two factually incorrect statements you've got there, Hoyt friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #100

So TeddyR Jul 2015 #59

Do you have several gun safes packed with lethal weapons and ammo? Hoyt Jul 2015 #61

..... burchfield Jul 2015 #67

I hope you don't think this post brer cat Jul 2015 #68

Welcome to DU, burchfield... I see that we live in the same town.. small world, especially in this Ghost in the Machine Jul 2015 #102

Buying guns online is too difficult, guns should be Darb Jul 2015 #73

Funny how MSGreedia is talking about the depression malaise Jul 2015 #74

I find it curious brer cat Jul 2015 #75

Yep - it is curious malaise Jul 2015 #76

It's perfectly legal to buy guns online. FFLs handle these routinely. whatthehey Jul 2015 #77

And how, because he's Muslim, it was "terror, terror, terror!" straight out of the gate. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #87

Actually I find that they are more restrained on that this time malaise Jul 2015 #90

Assault weapons serve what purpose? LeftinOH Jul 2015 #78

There are several reasons why people own them hack89 Jul 2015 #80

There's another reason for owning them that you rather diplomatically didn't mention: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #85

Would he have been prevented from buying in a brick-and-mortar gun shop? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #79

He would not have been prevented from buying in a brick-and-mortar gun shop Lurks Often Jul 2015 #81

That's a half-arsed mental health history check Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #82

Shrug, I think the bar to remove any Constitutional right should be set high Lurks Often Jul 2015 #83

That's the beauty of a Bill of Rights hack89 Jul 2015 #86

You can buy a gun online easy but you're not getting your hands on it until you go through an FFL 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #99

Nothing to see here. Just your Second Amendment at work. RandySF Jul 2015 #101

Nothing to read here. Just your First Amendment at work. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #104