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Hoyt

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48. Do you train to shoot people, like most gun fanciers?

Reply to hack89 (Reply #46)

Sun Jul 19, 2015, 05:08 PM

Jul 2015

Have you ever sold or given a gun to someone. Have you every introduced someone to the "sport." . . . . .

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Abdulazeez (Tennessee gunman) bought assault rifles online. [View all] brer cat Jul 2015 OP

They still have to go through an FFL before he could take them home Lurks Often Jul 2015 #1

Thank you for clarifying that. brer cat Jul 2015 #2

Sounds like some sloppy law-making, too gratuitous Jul 2015 #3

Guns are too easy to obtain brer cat Jul 2015 #6

Here is the ATF 4473 that a purchaser has to fill out Lurks Often Jul 2015 #8

Well, if we're ever fighting the same enemies from WWII gratuitous Jul 2015 #12

Like most gun controllers you resort to cheap personal attacks when Lurks Often Jul 2015 #28

No, it wasn't a cheap personal attack gratuitous Jul 2015 #39

Sure it was Lurks Often Jul 2015 #60

If, and only if gratuitous Jul 2015 #66

Another post short on facts, long on opinion and personal attacks Lurks Often Jul 2015 #72

We seem to have ceded the meaning of "assault rifle" to mean "semi-automatic." n/t Igel Jul 2015 #13

The lie was repeated enough. WaPo is a classic case of how terms are conflated in the same story. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #20

yep, just keep repeating the lie and it becomes true Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #27

I noticed that also. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #30

"Assault Rifle" means whatever the WaPo or NYT says, on any given day. Paladin Jul 2015 #32

Are their any other instances where you support imprecision of language? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #69

I don't allow right-wing political movements to control the vocabulary. Paladin Jul 2015 #70

Would those "right-wing political movements" include the Obama Administration? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #84

Pro-gun militants engaging in intellectual honesty? That'll be the day. Paladin Jul 2015 #88

Your attempt to go Jade Helm about "military-styled semi-auto(s)" isn't supported by fact friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #89

You lot don't get to use vocabulary as a means of intimidation any more. Paladin Jul 2015 #92

"Moral panic-mongering" isn't an insult, it is an accurate description friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #98

Intellectual Honesty? Best look in the mirror Lurks Often Jul 2015 #93

Pro-gun militancy is an overwhelmingly right-wing political movement. Paladin Jul 2015 #94

" I won't stand for your side's controlling the terminology of the debate" Yawn Lurks Often Jul 2015 #95

Don't expect any thanks in return. Paladin Jul 2015 #96

More noise and more dishonesty Lurks Often Jul 2015 #97

Guess who just referred to the shooter's gun as an "assault rifle"? Paladin Jul 2015 #103

If correct, it would be a once-in-a-decade event and merits close enquiry friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #105

In what way does the reporting imply he did not go through a NICS check? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #7

I suppose it is subjective Lurks Often Jul 2015 #9

No better way for a person to make themselves. sendero Jul 2015 #19

very true Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #29

not if it's a private purchase instate. dilby Jul 2015 #62

same as any newspaper or magazine ad Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #65

It depends on the state and the state law Lurks Often Jul 2015 #71

true here in Oregon we just past a law requiring dilby Jul 2015 #91

The media came right out of the gate with the NRA propaganda if they were armed doc03 Jul 2015 #4

More guns more guns! shenmue Jul 2015 #35

Once again, WaPo holding back certain info to allow misperceptions. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #5

I think when Doctors rx medications for depression, the Doctor should be required to inform Sunlei Jul 2015 #10

That is actually counter-productive. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #14

just an extra layer to the screening process for new guns. Let the professionals decide Sunlei Jul 2015 #15

We already have too much trouble getting people to seek help. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #17

I'm not saying that. This person family said he was 'on and off' his medication for depression Sunlei Jul 2015 #18

once again, people won't seek the medicine if they are put on databases. NutmegYankee Jul 2015 #24

when the Doctor speaks with the family/patient they can ask, recommend the person be flagged. Sunlei Jul 2015 #25

You're completely avoiding the point.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #38

There is a 5th Amendment which protects due process; i.e., court orders to infringe a right. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #23

Depression is very common in the US it's possible it's a covariate rather than a cause HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #11

When even a Boston PD captain's son goes off the rails and wants jihad mainer Jul 2015 #16

Unless you eliminate private sales none of this will matter. nt Logical Jul 2015 #21

That is my chief complaint. brer cat Jul 2015 #22

We don't have enough information to know if it was a private sale or if a NICS check happened. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #63

He would have to go through an FFL and a federal background check Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #26

Yeah, but in most states he could have gone to a gun show, found seller who wasn't "in the business" Hoyt Jul 2015 #31

Just wondering TeddyR Jul 2015 #33

Well, and it's my opinion, if you have more than a few hunting rifles, you are likely too sick Hoyt Jul 2015 #34

So those eight guns in my safe make me sick? hack89 Jul 2015 #36

I guess I am sick too Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #37

I'm sorry you feel insulted. But fact is, by owning a number of gunz, and promoting gunz, Hoyt Jul 2015 #41

Point where I promote guns Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #42

You are doing it right here. Any criticism of gunz, brings you running to defend them. Hoyt Jul 2015 #43

I am defending the right Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #57

No, you defend gunz, including your gunz. Hoyt Jul 2015 #64

It's ironic that your avatar has a guy smoking... Adrahil Jul 2015 #53

I TeddyR Jul 2015 #56

I think it is similar to someone who drives a Hummer. You are contributing to gun pollution, just Hoyt Jul 2015 #40

Huge difference hack89 Jul 2015 #44

"Shooting those guns harms no one." ?? WTF?? ***Shooting*those*guns*killed*5*people***, ffs. nt Electric Monk Jul 2015 #45

We are talking about MY guns hack89 Jul 2015 #46

Do you train to shoot people, like most gun fanciers? Hoyt Jul 2015 #48

No hack89 Jul 2015 #50

I do not and my guns Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #58

Au contraire. At a minimum you are helping preserve the use of lethal weapons in our socoety. Hoyt Jul 2015 #47

If your side had better spokesmen hack89 Jul 2015 #49

Nope. Spokespersons like Brady, Giffords, Moms, etc., do a great job. Heck, people Hoyt Jul 2015 #51

I would love to go shooting with Gabby hack89 Jul 2015 #52

Gabby doesn't shoot nowadays. She's relegated to watching her husband shoot. He Hoyt Jul 2015 #54

She and I would have a lot in common hack89 Jul 2015 #55

That's two factually incorrect statements you've got there, Hoyt friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #100

So TeddyR Jul 2015 #59

Do you have several gun safes packed with lethal weapons and ammo? Hoyt Jul 2015 #61

..... burchfield Jul 2015 #67

I hope you don't think this post brer cat Jul 2015 #68

Welcome to DU, burchfield... I see that we live in the same town.. small world, especially in this Ghost in the Machine Jul 2015 #102

Buying guns online is too difficult, guns should be Darb Jul 2015 #73

Funny how MSGreedia is talking about the depression malaise Jul 2015 #74

I find it curious brer cat Jul 2015 #75

Yep - it is curious malaise Jul 2015 #76

It's perfectly legal to buy guns online. FFLs handle these routinely. whatthehey Jul 2015 #77

And how, because he's Muslim, it was "terror, terror, terror!" straight out of the gate. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #87

Actually I find that they are more restrained on that this time malaise Jul 2015 #90

Assault weapons serve what purpose? LeftinOH Jul 2015 #78

There are several reasons why people own them hack89 Jul 2015 #80

There's another reason for owning them that you rather diplomatically didn't mention: friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #85

Would he have been prevented from buying in a brick-and-mortar gun shop? Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #79

He would not have been prevented from buying in a brick-and-mortar gun shop Lurks Often Jul 2015 #81

That's a half-arsed mental health history check Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #82

Shrug, I think the bar to remove any Constitutional right should be set high Lurks Often Jul 2015 #83

That's the beauty of a Bill of Rights hack89 Jul 2015 #86

You can buy a gun online easy but you're not getting your hands on it until you go through an FFL 951-Riverside Jul 2015 #99

Nothing to see here. Just your Second Amendment at work. RandySF Jul 2015 #101

Nothing to read here. Just your First Amendment at work. friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #104