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In reply to the discussion: White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism [View all]MellowDem
(5,018 posts)160. Yes yes and yes....
You've said it all beautifully.
The title of that article is cathartic for its intended audience. I don't think there is anything wrong with that necessarily, it's healthy to have catharsis. Just don't expect it to promote discussion, much less persuade people, as effectively.
Quite a bit of the titles on DU invecting against conservatives are cathartic.
I think actual persuasion and discussion is much harder and less immediately satisfying than preaching to the choir, but when you live in a world surrounded by those preaching against you, I understand the need for some release.
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White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism [View all]
Zenlitened
Jul 2015
OP
Well said. Doubtful if those who need to will actually hear your words . . .
Journeyman
Jul 2015
#29
When I--a white woman--was running for City Council, I said the words "white privilege" in a debate
femmedem
Jul 2015
#30
insulting maybe, but most of the time those making the insult have no power to oppress
yurbud
Jul 2015
#177
When you break it down like that, the whole exercise seems kinda cheap and chickenshit.
Throd
Jul 2015
#205
I have only read what is excerpted, clearly nothing there is remotely hostile, so I assume the
randys1
Jul 2015
#110
The funny thing is oppressors don't like to think of themselves as oppressors
951-Riverside
Jul 2015
#2
Who are the oppressors? How do we identify them? By their actions or is the evidence only skin deep?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#87
If racists are deemed to be deemed racist by the color of their skin? Seriously?
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#116
"people in this world who are more interested in stirring up racial animosity" < Mostly white ones.
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#19
Or, maybe you are just incorrect. Since it's a simple fact, and true. It may be
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#35
I say its time is over because I think the country is over. It's too integral to our success,
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#50
Don't you think that our system also allows us to thwart the evil that men do?
LuvLoogie
Jul 2015
#60
I didn't say I would kill it, you did. I said it would kill itself. What comes after is not up
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#206
God I hope the time is over, but not yet. Wait till the vile, filthy, disgusting puke fuck
randys1
Jul 2015
#118
that may be accurate for anyone who focuses on format rather than content in any given discussion.
LanternWaste
Jul 2015
#70
Thank you so much! Getting black people to admit some "reverse racism" means that it absolves
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2015
#166
There are examples on this page of racists desperate to pass on their tradition of hate...
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#193
Privileged white people dont believe, as you can see in this thread, that racism is their
randys1
Jul 2015
#112
Some whites act like you're projecting onto them the entire history of racism and get angry....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#17
I wondered where that mindset came from that POC aren't supposed to help you deal with it....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#111
Or enslaved, or refused service in a hotel or restaurant. Or questioned when if you were white
randys1
Jul 2015
#114
So, this title: "Serena Williams Drinks, Bathes In, And Makes Lemonade With White Tears"
betsuni
Jul 2015
#26
And always with the "shush, stop being so childish and immature, let the real grown-ups talk."
betsuni
Jul 2015
#41
Uh-Huh! Look at how these fools talked to me in that other thread. Ridiculously condescending.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2015
#167
There's a reason that Barack Obama is President and the "lemonade with white tears" guy is not.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#44
I don't know about reactions - linking article BY a white person - not my words
JustAnotherGen
Jul 2015
#48
And that's why we don't expect bloggers- like the Rude Pundit - to POTUS standards-
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#82
One group told to suck it up on a message board, the other murdered at will by cops and
randys1
Jul 2015
#122
the OP was 'White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism'
HFRN
Jul 2015
#64
okay - so you aren' t familiar with where this OP came from - context is everything
JustAnotherGen
Jul 2015
#69
I'm not going to bother citing the red herrings, rationalizations and false assumptions in your post
HFRN
Jul 2015
#71
And your interaction here is text book illustration of white privilege in America.
randys1
Jul 2015
#124
Generally speaking, people who benefit from the mechanisms of oppression rarely want to admit to it
me b zola
Jul 2015
#65
The Serena Williams OP to which you refer wasn't "talking to" whites, it was "talking at" them.
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2015
#77
Well I think some people enjoy snark but avoid serious commentary and they actually might learn some
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#91
You could, you know, actually be doing something to help the black community
LittleBlue
Jul 2015
#96
Nice assumption, but it's actually a dodge. Silencing dissent is your answer. Noted.
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#100
You just can't help yourself, can you. You do realize that people here can see right
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2015
#136
Exactly! "White people should be reminded of how privileged they are on a regular basis."
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2015
#145
But there's no such thing..... even if there were. We need to keep it quiet and
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2015
#163
If half or more of so called liberals are still stuck on stupid when it comes to this, or
randys1
Jul 2015
#164
The primal scream in November 2008 when the presidency was seized from the grasp of white males,
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#198
If someone tells you that your opinion doesn't matter, before they even hear it, simply
hughee99
Jul 2015
#174
If you want someone to listen to you, telling them to shut up, listen and agree is a bad way to go
hughee99
Jul 2015
#194
What if you aren't thinking about learning about baseball, and someone starts
hughee99
Jul 2015
#199
I keep reading that you can't start a conversation about race with the wrong language
JustAnotherGen
Jul 2015
#207