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In reply to the discussion: White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism [View all]Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)111. I wondered where that mindset came from that POC aren't supposed to help you deal with it....
Of COURSE they're not. Just like they aren't to blame for their own oppression.
South Africa whites under apartheid claimed to be an island of civilization in a sea of primitive savages. It's no wonder Republicans supported them because they felt the same way in the South. Still do.
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White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism [View all]
Zenlitened
Jul 2015
OP
Well said. Doubtful if those who need to will actually hear your words . . .
Journeyman
Jul 2015
#29
When I--a white woman--was running for City Council, I said the words "white privilege" in a debate
femmedem
Jul 2015
#30
insulting maybe, but most of the time those making the insult have no power to oppress
yurbud
Jul 2015
#177
When you break it down like that, the whole exercise seems kinda cheap and chickenshit.
Throd
Jul 2015
#205
I have only read what is excerpted, clearly nothing there is remotely hostile, so I assume the
randys1
Jul 2015
#110
The funny thing is oppressors don't like to think of themselves as oppressors
951-Riverside
Jul 2015
#2
Who are the oppressors? How do we identify them? By their actions or is the evidence only skin deep?
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#87
If racists are deemed to be deemed racist by the color of their skin? Seriously?
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#116
"people in this world who are more interested in stirring up racial animosity" < Mostly white ones.
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#19
Or, maybe you are just incorrect. Since it's a simple fact, and true. It may be
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#35
I say its time is over because I think the country is over. It's too integral to our success,
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#50
Don't you think that our system also allows us to thwart the evil that men do?
LuvLoogie
Jul 2015
#60
I didn't say I would kill it, you did. I said it would kill itself. What comes after is not up
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#206
God I hope the time is over, but not yet. Wait till the vile, filthy, disgusting puke fuck
randys1
Jul 2015
#118
that may be accurate for anyone who focuses on format rather than content in any given discussion.
LanternWaste
Jul 2015
#70
Thank you so much! Getting black people to admit some "reverse racism" means that it absolves
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2015
#166
There are examples on this page of racists desperate to pass on their tradition of hate...
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#193
Privileged white people dont believe, as you can see in this thread, that racism is their
randys1
Jul 2015
#112
Some whites act like you're projecting onto them the entire history of racism and get angry....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#17
I wondered where that mindset came from that POC aren't supposed to help you deal with it....
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2015
#111
Or enslaved, or refused service in a hotel or restaurant. Or questioned when if you were white
randys1
Jul 2015
#114
So, this title: "Serena Williams Drinks, Bathes In, And Makes Lemonade With White Tears"
betsuni
Jul 2015
#26
And always with the "shush, stop being so childish and immature, let the real grown-ups talk."
betsuni
Jul 2015
#41
Uh-Huh! Look at how these fools talked to me in that other thread. Ridiculously condescending.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Jul 2015
#167
There's a reason that Barack Obama is President and the "lemonade with white tears" guy is not.
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#44
I don't know about reactions - linking article BY a white person - not my words
JustAnotherGen
Jul 2015
#48
And that's why we don't expect bloggers- like the Rude Pundit - to POTUS standards-
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#82
One group told to suck it up on a message board, the other murdered at will by cops and
randys1
Jul 2015
#122
the OP was 'White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard to Talk to White People About Racism'
HFRN
Jul 2015
#64
okay - so you aren' t familiar with where this OP came from - context is everything
JustAnotherGen
Jul 2015
#69
I'm not going to bother citing the red herrings, rationalizations and false assumptions in your post
HFRN
Jul 2015
#71
And your interaction here is text book illustration of white privilege in America.
randys1
Jul 2015
#124
Generally speaking, people who benefit from the mechanisms of oppression rarely want to admit to it
me b zola
Jul 2015
#65
The Serena Williams OP to which you refer wasn't "talking to" whites, it was "talking at" them.
lumberjack_jeff
Jul 2015
#77
Well I think some people enjoy snark but avoid serious commentary and they actually might learn some
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#91
You could, you know, actually be doing something to help the black community
LittleBlue
Jul 2015
#96
Nice assumption, but it's actually a dodge. Silencing dissent is your answer. Noted.
bettyellen
Jul 2015
#100
You just can't help yourself, can you. You do realize that people here can see right
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2015
#136
Exactly! "White people should be reminded of how privileged they are on a regular basis."
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2015
#145
But there's no such thing..... even if there were. We need to keep it quiet and
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jul 2015
#163
If half or more of so called liberals are still stuck on stupid when it comes to this, or
randys1
Jul 2015
#164
The primal scream in November 2008 when the presidency was seized from the grasp of white males,
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#198
If someone tells you that your opinion doesn't matter, before they even hear it, simply
hughee99
Jul 2015
#174
If you want someone to listen to you, telling them to shut up, listen and agree is a bad way to go
hughee99
Jul 2015
#194
What if you aren't thinking about learning about baseball, and someone starts
hughee99
Jul 2015
#199
I keep reading that you can't start a conversation about race with the wrong language
JustAnotherGen
Jul 2015
#207