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In reply to the discussion: Why are so many Christians so obsessed with homosexuality? [View all]JonLP24
(29,322 posts)85. Have you seen or heard of recent events in Uganda
the full thing is on HBO but VICE recently aired a very disturbing report, out of all things I couldn't think of one that disturbed me as much as this one.
(What they covered immediately after that was a horrifying "corrective rape" of a Lesbian that was very depressing well because she had a child and her partner left her (can't remember reason) she saw a blessing that with the kid people won't ask her why she isn't married but didn't know if she should ever tell him or not and worried if he'd grow up to hate her as well.)
(There is a very offensive and graphic demonstration in front of children that is factually incorrect simulating anal sex with the male walking away with a bloody diaper)
In the VICE episode, [Member of Parliament David] Bahati refuses to name any one of his American partners, but [U.S. Senator James] Inhofe is clearly one. Also among Bahatis supporters and partners are Scott Lively, Pastor Rick Warren, Sharon Slater, and the World Congress of Families. And Bahati makes clear he and his country support the culture these American Christian extremists have brought to Uganda one that teaches, falsely, that gay people are all pedophiles, homosexuality is a choice, it is evil, and children must be protected from it at all costs.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/17/hbos-vice-goes-to-uganda-to-witness-u-s-evangelical-led-homophobia-in-action/
I'll keep the details short on this one but one thing that was an interest while all TCNs were used and abused and treated like potential terrorists Ugandan TCNs were given a rifle, bullet proof vest and was guarding checkpoints like Baghdad International Airport. Paid more too and I imagine not "watched" all the time.
This is one whose activities should be closely monitored
The Fellowship (Christian organization)
e Fellowship, also known as The Family,[2][3][4] and the International Foundation[5] is a U.S.-based religious and political organization founded in 1935 by Abraham Vereide. The stated purpose of the Fellowship is to provide a fellowship forum for decision makers to share in Bible studies, prayer meetings, worship experiences, and to experience spiritual affirmation and support.[6][7]
The organization has been described as one of the most politically well-connected ministries in the United States. The Fellowship shuns publicity and its members share a vow of secrecy.[8] The Fellowship's leader Doug Coe and others have explained the organization's desire for secrecy by citing biblical admonitions against public displays of good works, insisting they would not be able to tackle diplomatically sensitive missions if they drew public attention.[8]
Although the organization is secretive, it holds one regular public event each year, the National Prayer Breakfast held in Washington, D.C. Every sitting United States president since President Dwight D. Eisenhower, including President Barack Obama, has participated in at least one National Prayer Breakfast during his term.[9][10][11][12]
The Fellowship's known participants include ranking United States government officials, corporate executives, heads of religious and humanitarian aid organizations, and ambassadors and high-ranking politicians from across the world.[2][13][14][15][16] Many United States Senators and Congressmen who have publicly acknowledged working with the Fellowship or are documented as having worked together to pass or influence legislation.[17][18]
In Newsweek magazine, Lisa Miller wrote that rather than calling themselves "Christians," as they describe themselves, they are brought together by common love for the teachings of Jesus and that all approaches to "loving Jesus" are acceptable.[18] In contrast, Jewish writer[19] Jeff Sharlet wrote a book, The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power,[3] as well as an article in Harper's[20] magazine, describing his experience while serving as an intern in the Fellowship. He opined that the organization fetishizes power by comparing Jesus to "Lenin, Ho Chi Minh, Bin Laden" as examples of leaders who change the world through the strength of the covenants they had forged with their "brothers".[16][18]
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The Fellowship and Uganda
The Fellowship, through Representative Joe Pitts (R.-Pa.), redirected millions in US aid to Uganda from sex education programs to abstinence programs, thereby causing an evangelical revival, which included condom burnings.
In a November 2009 NPR interview, Sharlet alleged that Ugandan Fellowship associates David Bahati and Nsaba Buturo were behind the recent proposed bill in Uganda that called for the death penalty for gays.[81] Bahati cited a conversation with Fellowship members in 2008 as having inspired the legislation.[82]
Sharlet reveals that David Bahati, the Uganda legislator backing the bill, reportedly first floated the idea of executing gays during The Family's Uganda National Prayer Breakfast in 2008.[83] Sharlet described Bahati as a "rising star" in the Fellowship who has attended the National Prayer Breakfast in the United States and, until the news over the gay execution law broke, was scheduled to attend the 2010 U.S. National Prayer Breakfast.[83]
Fellowship member Bob Hunter gave an interview to NPR in December 2009 in which he acknowledged Bahati's connection but argued that no American associates support the bill.[84]
President Barack Obama, in his address to the Fellowship at their National Prayer Breakfast in early 2010, directly criticized the Uganda legislation targeting gay people for execution. In calling for a renewed emphasis on faith and civility, Obama stated, "We may disagree about gay marriage, but surely we can agree that it is unconscionable to target gays and lesbians for who they are whether it's here in the United States or, as Hillary [Clinton] mentioned, more extremely in odious laws that are being proposed most recently in Uganda."[85]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fellowship_%28Christian_organization%29#The_Fellowship_and_Uganda
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As a straight guy when I hear a born again right winger going on and on about .....
Botany
Jul 2015
#71
Yeah. Not all anti-gay bigots are closet-cases, but there are some of them out there...
backscatter712
Jul 2015
#79
Change it to: They're all very, very, very, very happy and they can't come to terms with it.
BlueJazz
Jul 2015
#38
But why the laser-like focus on that one thing, while ignoring scads of other things?
Arugula Latte
Jul 2015
#63
People know the answer on Shellfish/Tatoos so i'm not going to waste time on that
el_bryanto
Jul 2015
#96
they are filled with fear, it undermines their simple and easy to understand world
virtualobserver
Jul 2015
#6
Some historians would argue that Judeo-Christianity never *really* conquered paganism.
Smarmie Doofus
Jul 2015
#7
Maturity. They did not have healthy sex lives when they were in high school or college.
randys1
Jul 2015
#8
Uninformed or informed and do not believe the information. 1. Gay and pedophilia are NOT
patricia92243
Jul 2015
#9
In short, IMO, they are very frightened individuals striking out at anything they believe
RKP5637
Jul 2015
#81
I think that has to do with a lot of it, basically raised and living in closed circles to the
RKP5637
Jul 2015
#82
I know, it's weird, since Jesus Christ never uttered a single word that criticized homosexuality,
Nye Bevan
Jul 2015
#18
They believe the patriarchal nuclear family is the backbone of capitalism
Starry Messenger
Jul 2015
#22
Fundies, not Christians, who wants war ? Fundies not Christians, who brings guns to church ?
orpupilofnature57
Jul 2015
#52
It's not just Christians, they are not even the most obsessed and punitive of the religions
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2015
#69
It's only mentioned in the old testament, IIRC. Which forbids and condones a lot of crazy shit,
ohnoyoudidnt
Jul 2015
#73