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bvar22

(39,909 posts)
32. Funny you should mention that.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:51 PM
Jul 2015

Last edited Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:06 PM - Edit history (1)

The Arkansas Democratic Primary of 2010 was a heart breaking eye opener for the Grass Roots and Organized LABOR. We were given a Look Behind the Curtain,
and it wasn't very pretty.

[font size=3]We did EVERYTHING right in Arkansas in 2010.
We did EXACTLY what the White House asked us to do to "give the President Progressives in Congress that would work with him."[/font]

We organized and supported Democratic Lt Governor Bill Halter, the Pro-LABOR/ Pro-Health Care challenger to DINO Obstructionist Blanche Lincoln's Senate seat.
Halter was:

* Polling BETTER against the Republicans in the General,

*was popular in Arkansas in his OWN right,

*had an Up & Running Political machine,

* had a track record of winning elections (Lt. Governor)

*Had the full backing of Organized LABOR and The Grass Roots activists

*was handing Blanche her Anti-LABOR ass

...and we were WINNING!

Guess what happened.

The White House stepped in at the last minute to save Blanche's failing primary campaign with an Oval Office Endorsement of The Wicked Witch that Wrecked the Obama Agenda who was actually campaigning at that time as the one who had killed the Public Option!!!

Adding insult to injury, the White House sent Bill Clinton back to Arkansas on a state-wide Campaign/Fund Raising Tour for Blanche,
focusing on the areas with high Black Populations, and bashing Organized LABOR and "Liberals" at every opportunity.

For those of us who had worked hard to give President Obama Progressive Democrats who would work with him, it was especially difficult to watch his smiling Oval Office Endorsement for DINO Blanche Lincoln which played 24/7 on Arkansas TV the week before the runoff Primary election.

White House steps in to rescue Lincoln’s Primary Campaign in Arkansas

"So what did the Democratic Party establishment do when a Senator who allegedly impedes their agenda faced a primary challenger who would be more supportive of that agenda? They engaged in full-scale efforts to support Blanche Lincoln.

* Bill Clinton traveled to Arkansas to urge loyal Democrats to vote for her, bashing liberal groups for good measure.

*Obama recorded an ad for Lincoln which, among other things, were used to tell African-American primary voters that they should vote for her because she works for their interests.

*The entire Party infrastructure lent its support and resources to Lincoln — a Senator who supposedly prevents Democrats from doing all sorts of Wonderful, Progressive Things which they so wish they could do but just don’t have the votes for.

<snip>

What happened in this race also gives the lie to the insufferable excuse we’ve been hearing for the last 18 months from countless Obama defenders: namely, if the Senate doesn’t have 60 votes to pass good legislation, it’s not Obama’s fault because he has no leverage over these conservative Senators. It was always obvious what an absurd joke that claim was; the very idea of The Impotent, Helpless President, presiding over a vast government and party apparatus, was laughable. But now, in light of Arkansas, nobody should ever be willing to utter that again with a straight face.

Back when Lincoln was threatening to filibuster health care if it included a public option, the White House could obviously have said to her: if you don’t support a public option, not only will we not support your re-election bid, but we’ll support a primary challenger against you. Obama’s support for Lincoln did not merely help; it was arguably decisive, as The Washington Post documented today:"

<much more>

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/10/lincoln_6/


After the White House and Party Leadership had spent a truck full of money torpedoing the Primary challenge of a Pro-LABOR Democrat for Lincoln's Senate seat, the Party support for Lincoln evaporated for the General Election, and as EVERYBODY had predicted, Lincoln lost badly giving that Senate seat to a Republican virtually uncontested in the General Election.

Don't you find it "interesting" that the Party Establishment and conservative Power Brokers would spend all that money in a Democratic Primary to make sure that their candidate won, and then leave Their Winner dangling without support in the General Election?

Many Grass Roots Activists working for a better government concluded that the current Democratic Party Leadership preferred to GIVE this Senate Seat to a Big Business Republican rather than taking the risk that a Pro-LABOR Democrat might win it, and it was difficult to argue with them.
This was greatly reinforced by the Insults & Ridicule to LABOR & The Grass Roots from the White House after their Primary "victory" over Organized LABOR & the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.

When the supporters of Pro-LABOR Lt Gov Bill Halter asked the White House WHY they had chosen to throw their full support behind Lincoln at the last minute, rescuing her failing campaign, the only answer was ridicule and insults.

Ed Schultz sums up my feeling perfectly in the following clip.
http://crooksandliars.com/heather/ed-schultz-if-it-wasnt-labor-barack-obama-

So what did the White House gain by Beating Down Labor and the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary?
We don't know.
The White House has never responded to our questions with an explanation, only insults.
To date, the White House has refused to answer our questions,
or issue an apology for their taunts and ridicule against Organized LABOR and the Grass Roots in the Arkansas Democratic Primary.
Kick, I also worry about turnout. Agschmid Jul 2015 #1
And better candidates..... daleanime Jul 2015 #8
We have a better candidate zentrum Jul 2015 #58
For each of the congressional races? daleanime Jul 2015 #63
We need 435 better candidates. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #68
No, we don't. Don't write off all representatives. MineralMan Jul 2015 #99
Actually, I have a very strong knowledge. Perhaps you didn't notice, but I was silvershadow Jul 2015 #107
Freakin A! I've seen it first hand tech3149 Jul 2015 #85
Anyone who doesn't turnout to vote has no right to complain. still_one Jul 2015 #2
But they will anyway. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #4
I know, and sometimes the loudest it seems still_one Jul 2015 #12
I've never missed an election since 1972. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #50
Good, then don't vote if Hillary is the nominee. Fuck the supreme court, women's rights, social still_one Jul 2015 #59
Really makes you wonder. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #66
I get very frustrated by that logic obviously. still_one Jul 2015 #69
Keep bring up the Supreme Court. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #72
Scalia and Thomas were appointed by a republican president, not a Democratic one. Yes, the still_one Jul 2015 #81
THIS ^^^^^^^ calimary Jul 2015 #76
I agree. Of course Congress can make and change laws, but the Supreme Court can either delay still_one Jul 2015 #82
Who cares? Not me. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #97
The article points to a 19% enthusiasm deficit for Democrats. pa28 Jul 2015 #29
Anyone who doesn't realize the importance of the vote, or the difference between republicans and still_one Jul 2015 #49
Anyone who sits on the sidelines and blames those who do not vote salib Jul 2015 #83
Did you even read my posts? Where did I blame or not blame anyone for NOT voting on the outcome? still_one Jul 2015 #90
Your unwillingness to listen to their complaints will TOTALLY get them to vote. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #55
who in the fu*K am I. If they feel that way, then they will live with the consequences of their still_one Jul 2015 #65
And you get to live with the consequences of treating them like morons. jeff47 Jul 2015 #100
Won't bother me at all. If people do not feel it is important enough to vote it isn't my issue still_one Jul 2015 #101
So...your threat is the non-voters get a bad result. But you don't care if you get a bad result. jeff47 Jul 2015 #105
People should not have to "beg" people to vote. Have a good day still_one Jul 2015 #106
It's not that they don't wish to vote - TBF Jul 2015 #109
Then they should vote, instead of "hiding behind a screen and say", I won't vote if so and so still_one Jul 2015 #110
You can deliberately misunderstand TBF Jul 2015 #111
I never said anything against Bernie. still_one Jul 2015 #112
"Anyone who doesn't turnout to vote has no right to complain." malokvale77 Jul 2015 #87
Ok, then complain. still_one Jul 2015 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #3
And that's Bernie's Ace in the hole, everyone else running is a crook . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #7
So you're accusing Clinton, O'Malley, Chafee and Webb of corruption... brooklynite Jul 2015 #9
Thanks, He's the only Believable person running, the proof is President Obama . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #11
I won't vote for Hillary. Katashi_itto Jul 2015 #92
Really. Do you know Bernie's position on Israel? I suspect some of Bernie's supporters on DU still_one Jul 2015 #51
That's the appeal of Bernie and Elizabeth they're not a party of or to the Crime . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #5
But they're happy to work with and support those crooks in the Senate, right? brooklynite Jul 2015 #10
They're willing to work with without knuckling under to, or coercing with, Right ? orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #14
I see - i't okay to work with crooks if you stand your ground... brooklynite Jul 2015 #33
WMD's ? Bailout ? and the rest of History . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #74
Crickets........... 2 hrs orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #86
really. Senator Sanders voted for the ACA, even though he was against it, because he still_one Jul 2015 #54
Yes because he identified his opposition, and hasn't given up on the notion, he's capable orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #75
The point is he was pragmatic enough to realize that it was better than what was before, and though still_one Jul 2015 #79
Agreed . orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #84
Bernie is not through fighting for Medicare for ALL. bvar22 Jul 2015 #114
It won't be until at least the next census because the house is still_one Jul 2015 #116
That doesn't matter. bvar22 Jul 2015 #117
Well, this time the election is going to be out of their control. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #6
Excellent Point Le Taz Hot. 2banon Jul 2015 #16
I'm sorry, did you say, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #23
No! Not Skittles!! 2banon Jul 2015 #39
. . . Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #42
People will come out to vote for Bernie Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #17
We need to start recruiting progressive candidates Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #24
and if Bernie gets the nomination 99.9% of the DUers will vote for him. However, whoever gets the still_one Jul 2015 #94
Right. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #102
No more third way bullshit!! n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #13
I keep hearing about the imminent demise of the republican party due to demographics tularetom Jul 2015 #15
If the GOP falls apart, it's not necesarrily good if you are far left davidn3600 Jul 2015 #20
How will we know when that happens? tularetom Jul 2015 #22
fwiw, it would have to pull the Democratic party to the left truebluegreen Jul 2015 #48
There is no such thing as a moderate republican or libertarian anymore still_one Jul 2015 #95
Meanwhile the Republicans are hard at work disenfranchising minorities. pa28 Jul 2015 #26
yup. they are primarying kelly westlund in wis 7. mopinko Jul 2015 #18
No blaming the "Fringe Left" for any losses in 2016. bvar22 Jul 2015 #19
DWS and Nelson have killed Dem Party enthusiasm in Fl. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #30
Funny you should mention that. bvar22 Jul 2015 #32
Thanks for adding this. pa28 Jul 2015 #35
Things like this do NOT happen by accident. bvar22 Jul 2015 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #40
Halter was beating Lincoln, so Arkansas severly thinned voting access in districts leaning Halter. stuffmatters Jul 2015 #41
Needless to say, bvar22 Jul 2015 #67
Yes. The lie is perpetuated that the DLC was formed because liberal Dems couldn't win. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #45
You should post this as an OP kath Jul 2015 #113
Of course they will blame the "Fringe left". It's what they've been doing since 1968. jeff47 Jul 2015 #57
The "Centrist" Democrats are Waaaaay to the Right of Eisenhower. bvar22 Jul 2015 #118
Yep, but an actual left-of-center party would create competition jeff47 Jul 2015 #119
In Pres election years, turnout is all determined at the top of the slate. Will Third Way Hill GOTV? leveymg Jul 2015 #25
she is polling very well 6chars Jul 2015 #103
I disagree. It's becoming clearer and clearer what the stakes are. Dems will show up, imo. pinto Jul 2015 #27
So, it is not just me...... djean111 Jul 2015 #28
Yep, party elites trying to shove Murphy down our throats. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #31
They've been doing that for years in Florida. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #62
It is so frustrating to be condescendingly told we need to elect local Progressives if we djean111 Jul 2015 #73
FL's Demo party is worse than TX's: Enough power to sabotage anyone left of Eisenhower. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #115
I have said before... SoapBox Jul 2015 #34
Can someone tell me FloridaBlues Jul 2015 #36
He's not an Independant candidate. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #47
He says "I want to run in the Democratic primary" and the party says "Ok". jeff47 Jul 2015 #60
Hillary Bush vs Jeb Clinton will depress turnout 4139 Jul 2015 #38
Nope. Republicans will be thrilled to vote against Clinton. jeff47 Jul 2015 #61
Unfortunately, Thespian2 Jul 2015 #43
Not a shock MFrohike Jul 2015 #44
All House & Senate Wall Street Dems who voted for fast track should be primaried by real Dems stuffmatters Jul 2015 #46
Which is why a Sanders Presidency is important. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #52
I have never heard of Gaius Publius or Howie Klein Politicub Jul 2015 #53
Then I'd hope the base is Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #56
"if the voters don't respond to the program it's not the fault of the program, now is it?" MisterP Jul 2015 #64
Deja Vu all over again. Springslips Jul 2015 #70
The Corporate Dems gave up claiming only Corporate Dems can win in Red States.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #71
It's funny the blogger bring up the 21st... bobclark86 Jul 2015 #77
Not surprising swilton Jul 2015 #78
They still get rich regardless of turnout. That's all they care about. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #80
"Smart Democrats are worried about base turnout In 2016" malokvale77 Jul 2015 #88
This is exactly the problem with our party right now davidpdx Jul 2015 #89
The only way there's a "horse race" is if the MSM... joshcryer Jul 2015 #91
It seems our VOTERS learned absolutely nothing from the 2014 losses. True Blue Door Jul 2015 #96
They should be worried.. sendero Jul 2015 #98
Triangulation HassleCat Jul 2015 #104
This is only one big reason of many reasons Hillary will lose the GE. L0oniX Jul 2015 #108
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