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TheCount_

(70 posts)
125. I can't?
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jun 2015

I already did. Guess you have never been to a protest where a flag and someone talking has led to spitting and fistfights. Disorderly conduct charges stick all the time. Or, they are plea bargained because disorderly conduct is tacked on to the initial charge. Disorderly conduct is often just another term for incitement, which is the term used by a lot of other countries. Disorderly conduct is now a catch-all for a lot of things, not just what others call incitement. You might want to contact your lawyer if you don't know those definitions, cases, and practical applications.

I'm not talking about your TV examples of Singapore or the Saudis either. Dig deeper. Check France, UK, New Zealand, Australia, China, Japan, etc. The United States is not some unique island, with a monopoly on so-called free speech. It might be in junior high civics class, but I am talking about the real world.

There is a town near me that requires permits to demonstrate. It's required for one person who stands on the sidewalk carrying a sign. Paying for a permit means your speech is no longer free. That is what I am talking about. Free speech is balanced with societal concerns and safety. You are not free to get in someone's face or be a hooligan. Maybe you have never been to a protest where a flag and someone talking has led to spitting and fistfights. Yes, people are successfully prosecuted for that. Society has become so in your face that I think it's not a bad a idea to nip it in the bud further. Someone waving a hateful flag and speaking of terrorist threats is a crime in my book.

I also said that shitty songs should not be banned. I am not foolish enough to think that you can stop bad music. You can curb what's hurtful to the impressionable though, with my example of limiting sales of such music to adults, where possible.

Finally, what do you know about Singapore? Have you ever lived there? Hell, have you ever lived in a country besides the US? I have and I know people who have lived in Singapore. The TV impression is some ogre society, but you are not likely to see one single cop for months and months. They are civilized, which is more than I can say for some in this country.

People are "talking about banning everything connected with the South during the Civil War"? arcane1 Jun 2015 #1
Maybe banning everything that just plain sucks? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #17
It's a start! arcane1 Jun 2015 #24
I'm glad I missed it too TheCount_ Jun 2015 #23
deterioration? Hank Williams Jr. is a retrograde fucknut. Most Americans don't agree with him. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #34
You're comparing the Dixie Chicks to Hank Williams? TheCount_ Jun 2015 #53
I'm saying that when you start dancing down the road of censoring speech that is unpopular Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #55
Not really TheCount_ Jun 2015 #61
You don't understand the 1st Amendment, then. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #63
Don't tell me. TheCount_ Jun 2015 #66
And a dissenting opinion in a supreme court case carries exactly zero legal weight. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #67
Not really. TheCount_ Jun 2015 #70
Round and round we go. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #71
I'm not talking about banning TheCount_ Jun 2015 #73
You say you're not talking about 'banning something that ticks off someone' and then proceed to give Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #74
Ha ha TheCount_ Jun 2015 #75
I have heard of a hate crime. Emphasis on crime. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #76
These marches TheCount_ Jun 2015 #77
Regulation, yes. However, it is notable that the march was allowed to proceed on 1A grounds. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #78
And some marches are not allowed to proceed at all. TheCount_ Jun 2015 #80
Not on the basis of the -content- of the speech. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #81
No, it is on the content of speech. TheCount_ Jun 2015 #82
We're having two different conversations. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #83
The simple fact TheCount_ Jun 2015 #85
Okay. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #86
There is a lot of hate TheCount_ Jun 2015 #88
I don't like gay bashing either. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #90
Imagine that. TheCount_ Jun 2015 #91
Maybe you should ask yourself why the rest of the justices all felt differently. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #92
Maybe TheCount_ Jun 2015 #93
Again, I remember when the Nazis marched in Skokie, and I come from a family of Jews. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #94
I support the 1st TheCount_ Jun 2015 #95
So go ahead and have someone arrested for flying the confederate flag, or making a shitty song. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #96
People are arrested for incitement TheCount_ Jun 2015 #103
Oh yeah? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #108
Guess you've never traveled TheCount_ Jun 2015 #110
Damn, dude, don't put your back out, moving those goalposts. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #114
I can't? TheCount_ Jun 2015 #125
So you've got nothing, then. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #133
Wasn't that nitwit banned from ..... football? His little royalty cash cow song got the ax? MADem Jun 2015 #104
I don't know anything about it. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #109
I'm no expert on either, myself, but I thought he was the "Are you ready for some football" MADem Jun 2015 #111
Yeah--- That sounds vaguely familiar. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #113
I wouldn't listen to a Hank Williams, Jr song. BillZBubb Jun 2015 #2
Yes, he sucks. kentuck Jun 2015 #6
+100 nt clarice Jun 2015 #40
After listening to that song, I'm leaving DU and not because I want to. I plan.. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #57
No, but I'd vote for banning the singer . . . hatrack Jun 2015 #3
I'm not for banning anything. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #4
Agree on both. 840high Jun 2015 #9
I don't recall anything being banned. X_Digger Jun 2015 #5
Should this offspring song be fucking banned ??? seveneyes Jun 2015 #7
They'd have to ban nearly all of Stephen Foster's songs. madfloridian Jun 2015 #8
mebbe struggle4progress Jun 2015 #25
No one is talking about banning anything. Jamastiene Jun 2015 #10
The Articles of Secession of South Carolina were used as a model for the rest. merrily Jun 2015 #12
Or show the deniers Alexander Stephens' Cornerstone Speech. Staph Jun 2015 #32
Thank you. I did not know about that one. Bookmarking. I have a feeling I may want to merrily Jun 2015 #33
Be my guest! Staph Jun 2015 #35
that is the contextually relevant bit that the half-wits who say Washington DC should be renamed are LanternWaste Jun 2015 #59
Lyrics here: greyl Jun 2015 #11
His dad's talent skipped a generation Major Nikon Jun 2015 #13
If the south had won, when would they have given up their slaves? The ones they fought so hard for? pnwmom Jun 2015 #21
Epic Tree-Hugger Jun 2015 #51
Every girl child sent to Georgia to learn to talk with that southern accent that drives men wild? prayin4rain Jun 2015 #62
Public property should not hold racist symbols as honorable. U4ikLefty Jun 2015 #14
No, because you can't ban a song. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #15
No. romanic Jun 2015 #16
Look away, Look away Dixieland. nt. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2015 #18
Some abso-fucking-lutely GREAT music has come from the South. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #19
I wouldn't want to give Hank Junior madokie Jun 2015 #20
How about Joan Baez's song? former9thward Jun 2015 #22
She sang a lot of songs about the south. I remember "Blue Bayou" and the Billy McAllister/Bridge Cleita Jun 2015 #28
I am with you there. former9thward Jun 2015 #36
Oops I think I got it wrong senior memory and all. Cleita Jun 2015 #39
I love that song, both her version and the Bands. logosoco Jun 2015 #42
The Band wrote that song cemaphonic Jun 2015 #64
I have zero problem with the song. former9thward Jun 2015 #65
How can you have zero problem with the song pnwmom Jun 2015 #98
Sorry, I separate entertainment from politics. former9thward Jun 2015 #100
If the South had won the war, it would have been in charge of deciding how to interpret pnwmom Jun 2015 #101
No, no and no. former9thward Jun 2015 #117
Sorry, I had thought you must be talking about a Baez cover of the Hank Williams song. pnwmom Jun 2015 #121
Well she sings about "the rebel cause". former9thward Jun 2015 #122
I usually listen like you do. It's the voice and music that I hear mostly, pnwmom Jun 2015 #124
But they were interested in keeping theirs. Live and Learn Jun 2015 #106
Take your strawmen to someone who cares. former9thward Jun 2015 #116
I'm not for banning anything artists do, even if it's political. Cleita Jun 2015 #26
I don't listen to any music associated with that damn flag, including Lynryd skynryd. Hoyt Jun 2015 #27
Yuck he is as bad as the Nuge... Kalidurga Jun 2015 #29
Good point. You shall know them by their music. Cleita Jun 2015 #30
Face book pegged me as a liberal based on my music Kalidurga Jun 2015 #31
No. LWolf Jun 2015 #37
No (nt) bigwillq Jun 2015 #38
Banned by Whom? MineralMan Jun 2015 #41
Who's talking about banning everything connected to the South, besides Fox screamers? Orsino Jun 2015 #43
Why is it that people don't understand the difference edhopper Jun 2015 #44
Not "banned" by law, but YouTube and other sites have the right to decline to host it, Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #45
No. Texasgal Jun 2015 #46
Charlie Daniels Band - South's Gonna Do It Again KamaAina Jun 2015 #47
No one is banning anything. Get a grip. yellowcanine Jun 2015 #48
I didn't know Tipper Gore posted on DU snooper2 Jun 2015 #49
This "banning this" and "banning that" shit is getting entirely out of control. WillowTree Jun 2015 #50
No. Why? ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #52
No, but then again, I listen to Hank3 much more than Hank Jr. (n/t) derby378 Jun 2015 #54
This link had some good comments in it: kentuck Jun 2015 #56
I'm not aware of any confederate related material that's been banned... LanternWaste Jun 2015 #58
It should be banned! Glassunion Jun 2015 #60
Just sign your name in blood ... seveneyes Jun 2015 #68
No. And I didn't even look at it, or listen to it. TheManInTheMac Jun 2015 #69
It's not a bad song. I llike the dixieland music woven in there. Jetboy Jun 2015 #72
yes olddots Jun 2015 #79
Nothing has been banned WestCoastLib Jun 2015 #84
liberals/progressives calling for banning of songs . . . DrDan Jun 2015 #87
Oh FFS Feron Jun 2015 #89
No. But how about no one buys it or plays it anymore. pnwmom Jun 2015 #97
Ban Hank? In Kentucky? KentuckyWoman Jun 2015 #99
I think all country songs s/b banned. valerief Jun 2015 #102
I am sure Elvis would have it banned if he were alive. Live and Learn Jun 2015 #105
Heck no, This is a great reminder of what we could have suffered through Live and Learn Jun 2015 #107
Yes XRubicon Jun 2015 #112
I don't think any songs should be banned but there are a lot of songs in bad taste gollygee Jun 2015 #115
No Snow Leopard Jun 2015 #118
Not really. sjk.fly4ever Jun 2015 #119
No. n/t zappaman Jun 2015 #120
What is this banning of which you speak? libodem Jun 2015 #123
It belongs in a museum.. not banned! Peacetrain Jun 2015 #126
Ban the singer. not the song HassleCat Jun 2015 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author arcane1 Jun 2015 #128
This piece of music is NO threat at all to anyone in the United States. ladjf Jun 2015 #129
What government agency is using that song? jberryhill Jun 2015 #130
I want a ban on stupid threads in GD. nt LeftyMom Jun 2015 #131
No abakan Jun 2015 #132
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