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In reply to the discussion: About that young lady the cop brutally attacked over the pool party.... [View all]happyslug
(14,779 posts)At the same time I have had SOME training in Crowd control and arresting people (Not as extensive as the Police, but enough to give me an idea of what to do and the problems involved). The use of Force is NEVER pretty and the arresting of someone who does NOT want to be arrested requires the use of force, and more likely then not involved knocking that person to the ground so they can be secured by handcuffs or other means of detention. In the movies it looks easy, in real life a lot more dangerous and a lot more force is used then in the movies and on TV.
The video shows an Officer facing some sort of high intensity violent situation (which is unclear in the video, appears to be tension left over from the early fight between two women) and the officers doing what they could to calm down the situation by getting people to leave AND to arrest people they THINK may be involved.
The officers did NOT have access to the earlier video of the two women fighting, but I suspect they had radio reports of a fight in the pool, and that it involved "Black Gangs" (The 911 recording would have records of what was told to the officers about the incident and we have NOT heard them). Police know that such reports are inaccurate but it indicates something was up and they had to be on top of the situation as soon as they arrived. They arrived and something happened, a part of which was catch on video.
Many police cars have video today, so that would be another source of video, through without sound (most video recorders for officer avoid the issue of audio taping of people without their permission, which is illegal in many states, by using videos without audio capacity). I do not see any body cams so that will not be a source of video.
My comments is on the use of violence, which is RESERVED TO THE POLICE UNDER THE LAW. The use of violence is NEVER PRETTY, even in training it looks bad. My review of the video seems to show the police trying to take charge of a bad situation and the people the police believe are the most involved (African Americans) not cooperating with the police (The middle age whites males seems to be in the way, but NOT arguing with the police officers and not yelling at the officers, the white middle age males are there, but like the trees ignored by the police for the police do not see them as the problem).
The sole exception appears to be Skip Davis, the Craig Ranch Community Manager who appears to be around the police officer. He is the overweight man dressed in causal clothes in the videos. It appears that the Officers know him and him the Officers. Thus he is permitted to walk around for technically he is the man on the grounds the Police have to work with.
Sorry, I do not fear my neighbors, and I live in an inner city neighborhood. I am just commenting on the actions of the Police based on their training and what is expected of them in the law enforcement community.