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Showing Original Post only (View all)“We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences ..." [View all]
We need more police, we need more and tougher prison sentences for repeat offenders. The three-strikes-and-youre-out for violent offenders has to be part of the plan. We need more prisons to keep violent offenders for as long as it takes to keep them off the streets. ~ Hillary Clinton, August 10, 1994
Source: http://sentencingproject.org/doc/File/three%20strikes%20law_presidential.pdf
QUESTION:. I would like to know would you help us shut down the for-profit prisons, would you you shift money away from detaining people to other more humane methods, immigration judges for examples [
] and would you work for comprehensive immigration reform?
SANDERS: The answer is, yes, yes ,yes. Clearly one of the crises we face in our nation is that we have more people behind bars than any other country on earth [ ] China is a nation that is 3 or 4 times larger than us population wise, it is an authoritarian country Communist country, and we have far more people behind bars than does China. And what we do in our jails is we run a great educational system, we education people how to be even better criminals. So it seems to me that rather than spending huge amounts of money on jails and on private corporations who are incentivized to keep people in jail, it might make a lot more sense to spend money on job training and education so that people do not end up in jail in the first place. And yes I'm certainly in favor of comprehensive education reform.
SANDERS: The answer is, yes, yes ,yes. Clearly one of the crises we face in our nation is that we have more people behind bars than any other country on earth [ ] China is a nation that is 3 or 4 times larger than us population wise, it is an authoritarian country Communist country, and we have far more people behind bars than does China. And what we do in our jails is we run a great educational system, we education people how to be even better criminals. So it seems to me that rather than spending huge amounts of money on jails and on private corporations who are incentivized to keep people in jail, it might make a lot more sense to spend money on job training and education so that people do not end up in jail in the first place. And yes I'm certainly in favor of comprehensive education reform.
Compare and contrast.
Source: http://www.alternet.org/bernie-sanders-pledges-end-no-child-left-behind-shut-down-profit-prisons
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One of the problems with being a corporatist trying to run a government;
Half-Century Man
May 2015
#1
In for-profit prisons, prison labor is a revenue stream, prisoner education is not.
HereSince1628
May 2015
#22
Yes technology advancements and political opinions are the same thing. Nice try. nt
Logical
May 2015
#36
The original post is disingenuous. Digging up a two decade old quote against a recent interview.
Thor_MN
May 2015
#40
Perhaps we could avoid comparing something from over 2 decades ago to something said last week?
Thor_MN
May 2015
#28
Glad I could help. Also, Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for in the quote
Recursion
May 2015
#77
I agree, it is embarrasingly inane to contend that a 21 year old quote is comparible with a recent
Thor_MN
May 2015
#33
Particularly when Sanders voted in the House for the bill she was pushing in the quote (nt)
Recursion
May 2015
#81
Better yet: she was advocating a bill Sanders voted for (the Assault Weapons Ban)
Recursion
May 2015
#75
Hell, we need sentences for first time bank$ter/donor offenders. Perhaps the FBI ought to busy
jtuck004
May 2015
#3
Hillary has been more of a politician than her supporters like to admit. She has a lot of....
marble falls
May 2015
#5
Sanders voted for the bill she was advocating for in this quote, the Assault Weapons Ban
Recursion
May 2015
#80
I guess Sanders has, too, on this issue - he AGREED with Clinton 21 years ago!
George II
May 2015
#92
All these hit pieces on Hillary Clinton are not going to bring your candidate closer to victory.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#11
All these hit pieces on Hillary Clinton are not going to bring your candidate closer to victory.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2015
#64
Speaking of hit pieces ...here's one of the worst to hit DU from your side of the beltway.
L0oniX
May 2015
#88
Your point? Have you ever changed you opinion about anything? For that matter....
George II
May 2015
#15
Has Hillary changed her position on this? Please provide a link. I'll be glad to revise/delete.
Scuba
May 2015
#17
Hillary has changed some ideas, but does Sanders advocate letting "violent criminals" loose???
Sancho
May 2015
#18
No one advocated letting violent criminals out of prison. But by saying we needed "more prisons" ..
Scuba
May 2015
#24
"Hillary clearly wasn't advocating for releasing non-violent, victimless prisoners, now was she? "
NYC Liberal
May 2015
#57
Miss Cleo is ripping you off. Try a better source. Maybe buy your own set of Tarot cards.
L0oniX
May 2015
#56
Why do you think Hillary said we needed "more prisons" when she could have advocated ..
Scuba
May 2015
#23
Can't wait for her pro Iraq war vote to also be 21 years ago so it won't mean anything.
L0oniX
May 2015
#55
Women don't have to base their opinions on those of their husbands. I assume that was
sabrina 1
May 2015
#60
The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants. Albert Camus
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2015
#37
She's gonna need to address things like the drug war and marijuana legalization.
Warren DeMontague
May 2015
#49
I have to agree that using a quote from 1994 is not fair nor a valid comparison.
cui bono
May 2015
#58
And, in the intervening decades, we got both of them, and the crime rate plummeted
Recursion
May 2015
#59
The problem is the crime rate plummeted in the same time frame in other nations
Fumesucker
May 2015
#68
More incarceration inevitably leads to more crime and more sophisticated criminals
Fumesucker
May 2015
#78
Which is why I, like you, and Sanders, and Clinton, want to end mass incarceration
Recursion
May 2015
#79
Bernie Sanders doesn't? For that matter, EVERYONE changes positions from time to time.
George II
May 2015
#94