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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Fri May 29, 2015, 09:12 PM May 2015

The Last (Hopefully) On Bernie Sanders And Race... [View all]

Why Bernie Sanders doesn't talk about race
Dara Lind - Vox
May 27, 2015, 1:50 p.m. ET

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But there's a reason I say "those progressives" instead of just "progressives": because not everyone in the Democratic base shares those particular passions, or those passions alone. For other progressives — many of them black or Latino — economic inequality is important, but so is racial inequality. They're extremely concerned about racial bias in policing, and about ending mass incarceration. They're concerned about the treatment of unauthorized immigrants, and about protecting voting rights (an issue like campaign finance where progressives are worried the integrity of the political system is at stake — and where the outcome doesn't look good for them).

And Bernie Sanders doesn't speak to those concerns. He didn't mention those issues in his campaign launch yesterday, or in his email announcement to his supporters last month, and they're not on the issues page of his website.

This isn't an accidental oversight. These simply aren't issues Sanders is passionate about in the way he's passionate about economic injustice. When my colleague Andrew Prokop profiled Sanders last year, he pointed out astutely that Sanders's career has been "laser-focused on checking the power of the wealthy above all else." Sanders believes in racial equality, sure, but he believes it will only come as the result of economic equality. To him, focusing on racial issues first is merely treating the symptom, not the disease.

Even as a student at the University of Chicago in the 1960s, influenced by the hours he spent in the library stacks reading famous philosophers, (Sanders) became frustrated with his fellow student activists, who were more interested in race or imperialism than the class struggle. They couldn't see that everything they protested, he later said, was rooted in "an economic system in which the rich controls, to a large degree, the political and economic life of the country."

"Bernie is in many ways a 1930s radical as opposed to a 1960s radical," says professor Garrison Nelson of the University of Vermont. "The 1930s radicals were all about unions, corporations — basically economic issues rather than cultural ones." Richard Sugarman, an old friend who worked closely with Sanders during his early political career, concurs. "We spent much less time on social issues and much more time on economic issues," he told me. "Bernard always began with the question of, 'What is the economic fairness of the situation?'


So while there's one group of progressives who look at Sanders and see someone who has spent his career voicing their most deeply held beliefs about America, there are others who don't. And they don't have a Bernie Sanders — a decades-long champion — of their own in the race. Former Virginia Senator Jim Webb was interested in mass incarceration before it was cool, but also thinks the Democratic Party needs to do more to appeal to the white working class — so it's hard to imagine his campaign becoming the standard-bearer for nonwhite progressive concerns. And while former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley has been trying to make a name for himself by running to Hillary Clinton's left on immigration, the protests over the killing of Freddie Gray and police behavior in Baltimore have reminded America of the role O'Malley played as mayor of Baltimore in creating the system that's so dysfunctional today.

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More: http://www.vox.com/2015/5/27/8671135/bernie-sanders-race

Put in a similar way...

To be clear, Sanders hasn’t avoided talking about race throughout his career because he’s a bigot. His motivations have been unsentimental and practical (again: Vermont is about as diverse as a Simon & Garfunkel concert). But they’ve been ideological, too. “Sanders believes in racial equality, sure,” writes Lind, “but he believes it will only come as the result of economic equality.” A politics of racial justice that neglects the question of economic power — or treats it as a secondary, separate issue — is, in Sanders’ mind, equivalent to “treating the symptom, not the disease.”


Link: http://www.salon.com/2015/05/29/hillary_clintons_latest_hard_choice_how_will_she_solve_her_bernie_sanders_problem/








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Hmmmm gollygee May 2015 #1
Me too Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #2
So long as there is racical inequality gollygee May 2015 #6
Trickle down justice. We know how that is going to work. sheshe2 May 2015 #3
So... Let Me Ask You... What You Are Proposing ??? WillyT May 2015 #4
No, it is not all about the money. sheshe2 May 2015 #8
+1 Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #14
More manufactured outrage AgingAmerican May 2015 #80
Wrong! sheshe2 May 2015 #82
They cant defend the economy AgingAmerican May 2015 #94
Astroturf Outrage Katashi_itto May 2015 #95
Ah... I see "trickle down" made it on the list of talking points. cui bono May 2015 #97
I want to hear him speak to these issues. TDale313 May 2015 #5
Yeah I want to hear something from him. gollygee May 2015 #7
i am very disappointed. i did not expect this at all. i expected more. truly. seabeyond May 2015 #9
Bernie got it backwards. JaneyVee May 2015 #10
I don't think this will be an issue as his competitor is polling about 90% with African Americans. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #11
well, meh... he just is not passionate about social justice. seabeyond May 2015 #12
Being from VT, I guess he doesn't really have to be, if you know what I mean. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #13
ya. he still has a lot of time to talk to us, but i cannot tell you, seabeyond May 2015 #15
I'm sorry, but I won't get past that kickoff rally. He never stood much of a chance with me, but... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #17
"singular lack of respect". that is what it was. i let it go, allowing economic ot be his kick off. seabeyond May 2015 #18
When Bernie becomes the nominee aspirant May 2015 #22
I've always been a Democrat. I'll always be a Democrat. Bernie? Switched parties a few hours ago. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #29
I'm glad you will become a Bernie supporter aspirant May 2015 #41
Alrighty then. You've changed my mind. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #43
good to know being the loyal democrat, if clinton wins, he will be voting for her. i will take that. seabeyond May 2015 #49
It does work both ways doesn't it? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #50
Does working both sides of the street make you dizzy? aspirant May 2015 #55
Have a great evening. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #60
"I will take that" aspirant May 2015 #53
a vote for dem, is all about giving and not just to you and me, but the whole nation seabeyond May 2015 #59
Are there TAKERS that vote Dem too aspirant May 2015 #63
you have just gotten too cutsey for me. clueless. so, is that a yes, that you are a loyal dem and seabeyond May 2015 #66
Does Jaime Dimon vote Democratic? aspirant May 2015 #68
meh... you wont answer. whatever seabeyond May 2015 #70
don't bother sea. sheshe2 May 2015 #71
Post # 24 aspirant May 2015 #72
Considering that you claim to be a Sanders supporter... NaturalHigh May 2015 #74
That's a thing BrotherIvan May 2015 #75
They're just trying to work through their profound grief QC May 2015 #77
It must be so disconcerting BrotherIvan May 2015 #79
Jury results Codeine May 2015 #20
Oops. I forgot. The few remaining AA folk can't speak to race without being labeled "race baiters". Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #25
May I join you, Tarheel. sheshe2 May 2015 #33
Welcome to the club my dear She. This is taking alert stalking to a whole new level. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #42
Gee whiz~ sheshe2 May 2015 #45
Skinner said there isn't any evidence of alert stalking... Violet_Crumble May 2015 #62
Nite Nite~ sheshe2 May 2015 #65
Sweet Dreams,sheshe2! Violet_Crumble May 2015 #69
Crazy that it was even that close. KMOD May 2015 #38
If you were #7 I love you davidpdx May 2015 #26
I think we should have a party for #7. The alert stalkers have made this place really suck. nt Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #39
Your post wasn't hid, the alert was BS davidpdx May 2015 #47
I think you may have misread my post, or I wasn't clear. I was agreeing with you. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #48
ok davidpdx May 2015 #54
!!! Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #57
#7! sheshe2 May 2015 #52
You & #7 have made my night. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #58
I had to chose my gif wisely. sheshe2 May 2015 #64
Who knows what's "non threatening" anymore? I got a hide for a pic of a campaign rally. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #67
What do you mean? aspirant May 2015 #32
K^R Cha May 2015 #16
but really, tell me cha, ... are you surprised by this? i really am. i was off to bed. and now, seabeyond May 2015 #21
Sad to say, I am not really surprised. sheshe2 May 2015 #35
Yeah, a bit, sea.. to have it written out like this. But, I'm so use to President Obama working Cha May 2015 #37
ah. well. i got a hide on that thread. talking about black men being shot in the back seabeyond May 2015 #44
Sorry for the hide, sea. sheshe2 May 2015 #61
No you got the hide for telling that poster "all well, in time maybe you will get yours." NaturalHigh May 2015 #85
hoping a DUer gets "theirs" too (shot in the back) wasn't hide worthy to you? m-lekktor May 2015 #93
What are HRC's aspirant May 2015 #19
Exactlly. SoapBox May 2015 #28
who are these people writing this stuff? how reliable is it? who is lind? nt seabeyond May 2015 #23
Where is Hrc's specific solutions to racism? aspirant May 2015 #24
Plus 1000 SoapBox May 2015 #30
Neither Lind nor WillyT speak for Bernie. beam me up scottie May 2015 #31
he is not gonna be following along voting what comes up, he will be pres, enacting. seabeyond May 2015 #34
He's not passionate about racial justice? beam me up scottie May 2015 #36
Good grief. You criticize him in practically every single post. NaturalHigh May 2015 #83
That's what I want to know. TDale313 May 2015 #40
Bernie understands why things still suck for AA's 150 yrs after slavery ended. Zorra May 2015 #27
Where are the actual facts in this article? BrotherIvan May 2015 #46
Thank you. beam me up scottie May 2015 #51
It's almost to the top of the greatest BrotherIvan May 2015 #78
Excellent, pleasure to give it the 97th rec! beam me up scottie May 2015 #81
Never. It's all they got BrotherIvan May 2015 #84
I feel you. beam me up scottie May 2015 #86
For real BrotherIvan May 2015 #87
Nicely done. beam me up scottie May 2015 #88
The difference is, I don't speak for anyone but Ivan BrotherIvan May 2015 #89
Yep, they were her "research". beam me up scottie May 2015 #91
All of his posts were spot on BrotherIvan May 2015 #92
It's an Op Ed, but yes, some above have already internalized it as the gospel DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #56
Sad but true. TM99 May 2015 #73
I am going to embrace it BrotherIvan May 2015 #76
Yep... And If You Read The Entire Article In The OP... That's The Author's Concern... WillyT May 2015 #96
Interesting read. K&R Jamaal510 May 2015 #90
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