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KamaAina

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Tue May 19, 2015, 03:47 PM May 2015

Top Democrat sounds ‘alarm bells’ over Obama rhetoric on Islamic State [View all]

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/top-democrat-sounds-alarm-bells-over-obama-119369403841.html

A senior House of Representatives Democrat said Tuesday that the White House’s description of supposed progress in the war against the Islamic State should ring “alarm bells,” and called the fall of the city of Ramadi to the extremists “a very serious and significant setback.”

“I don’t think we’re losing the war, but I don’t think we’re making tremendous progress either,” Rep. Adam Schiff, the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters at a breakfast organized by the Christian Science Monitor....

“I wouldn’t use the metrics of the number of sorties or bombs dropped or anything, and to the degree you hear administration officials use those metrics, alarm bells should be going off,” Schiff cautioned.

The lawmaker also warned against using measures like the amount of territory controlled by the Islamic State, also known as ISIL or ISIS, because in some cases the group has been replaced by other extremist militias hostile to the United States.


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I notice he doesn't say what metric he WOULD use to judge progress. True Blue Door May 2015 #1
Agreed. It's a broad front. It's possible to be making progress in 2/3rds of the Iraqi theatre stevenleser May 2015 #2
You know, if we're going to have Congressmen talking about "losing the war," Maedhros May 2015 #3
How could we? KamaAina May 2015 #4
Actually, they have declared a caliphate in ISIS-occupied Syria and Iraq, so I think we could Maedhros May 2015 #6
Does anyone else recognize them? KamaAina May 2015 #18
The point is that if we want to claim all the "benefits" of being in a war, Maedhros May 2015 #19
My point is that there is no entity for us to declare an actual war against. KamaAina May 2015 #20
What 'war' are we 'not losing'? I thought we got out of that ill-conceived, massive war crime in sabrina 1 May 2015 #5
Outrage over elective wars is a rhetorical tool used only against Republicans.[n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #7
Apparently. But at least back in 2002 we still were told when the country was getting ready sabrina 1 May 2015 #10
Who wants to talk about another pointless war, Maedhros May 2015 #11
I really agree with you. I was just setting here thinking about what would happen if we just walked jwirr May 2015 #9
When has our military involvement in the Middle East ever resulted in something good? [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #12
No and that is why I was thinking about getting out. We have done nothing but trash the place, jwirr May 2015 #15
It will be tough to exit. Many vested interests want us to fight there, forever. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #17
Well, considering the TOTAL failure of ALL our interventions so far, I think we SHOULD get out sabrina 1 May 2015 #13
I also think we should leave but this is just us. The MIC, the politicians including ours, the rich jwirr May 2015 #16
+ a brazilian. hifiguy May 2015 #22
He's right that we aren't making much progress, but there's no need for alarm. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #8
ISIS is Bush's baby... Cali_Democrat May 2015 #14
His Chimperial Majesty broke it, hifiguy May 2015 #21
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