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DURHAM D

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11. My guess is that the IRS sees this as a trade off.
Tue May 8, 2012, 02:46 PM
May 2012

It is probably not by accident that they are getting their withholding back. However, if I understand correctly these same workers are helping fund medicare and social security. And employers are matching the employee SS funds (+2%) and medicare contribution and depositing with the IRS. I assume that if they are working here undocumented they will never be able to claim benefits for medicare or SS. If, however, there is a way for them to claim benefits later than this is problem.

My right wing brother-in-law was doing an illegal immigrant diatribe one day and he mistakenly asked me "What am I supposed to think when I drive by a bunch of landscapers and they are all Mexican?" I told him to turn his car around and go back and thank them because their work is funding his SS and Medicare benefits. Everyone in the room but him burst out laughing. He acted like a total ass so my sister sent him to the basement.

JFTR - I could be wrong on all of this.

The video breaks-up part way through so don't know if this is covered.

I don't believe a fucking word of it madokie May 2012 #1
Undocumented workers file tax returns and always have. They are required to by law. stevenleser May 2012 #2
My guess is that the IRS sees this as a trade off. DURHAM D May 2012 #11
the questions about perspective are what's missing Enrique May 2012 #14
Did they pay tax? Do they have kids? marybourg May 2012 #3
The dependents they are claiming in this story all DURHAM D May 2012 #13
You know, you have to supply a social security number for each dependent claimed. Luminous Animal May 2012 #19
Really? DURHAM D May 2012 #21
No dependency expemption is allowed without the SSN... Luminous Animal May 2012 #26
The rules are complicated, but neither marybourg May 2012 #29
I did not suggest that this is in any way "committing tax fraud" DURHAM D May 2012 #30
I think my response to the post I marybourg May 2012 #31
the links are legit BadGimp May 2012 #4
The IRS link has nothing to do with this story EFerrari May 2012 #8
why would you say that? BadGimp May 2012 #23
Nope. The page describing the program is not evidence of abuse of the program. EFerrari May 2012 #28
I have not heard about this, but I hope it is true. ZombieHorde May 2012 #5
First of all show me a right winger that doesn't cheat on their income tax. upaloopa May 2012 #6
what is disturbing to me is that investigative reporter Enrique May 2012 #7
The story is all over the far right sites. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #9
are they talking about how Obama wants to increase IRS compliance funding? Enrique May 2012 #17
I remember hearing stories like this when I was a kid in the 50s rurallib May 2012 #10
Another attempt by the media to deflect criticism away from the ruling rich. Better Believe It May 2012 #12
not anymore disturbing than the 'good upstanding rich' using loopholes spanone May 2012 #15
IMO, this is no more or less katsy May 2012 #16
Just a few thoughts jehop61 May 2012 #18
good points jehop61 BadGimp May 2012 #24
To get my child tax credit I have to put the S.S. down exboyfil May 2012 #20
The story does not talk about child tax credits - DURHAM D May 2012 #22
You have to supply a SSN for a dependency exemption. Not just for the tax credit. Luminous Animal May 2012 #27
ITIN holders are not eligible for Earned Income Tax Credit even if their kids have Luminous Animal May 2012 #25
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