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fadedrose

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79. For people who would not dream of killing Jews

Thu Apr 23, 2015, 08:54 AM

Apr 2015

or anybody for that matter, the signs are unnecessary.

The trouble is that they draw attention to Jews, and are in the face of Jihadists, and the word "worship" is enough to muster up their enthusiasm for killing a Jew. Stirring the pot is what it is.

I don't think it's a good idea for the Jews, who in these times need a lower profile, or the Jihadists, who need no encouragement.

You could say the same for Christians who are now targets along with the Jews..

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Judge Rules MTA Must Run ‘Killing Jews Is Worship’ Ad on Buses, Subways [View all] Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP

Are you a believer in free speech, or only acceptable speech? guillaumeb Apr 2015 #1

Sorry, the concept of freedom of expression is always relative. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6

sex with a minor is illegal. But the age of majority varies by country. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #8

Just as certain language and rhetoric is considered Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #15

You are correct. Charlie Hebdo's racist nonsense was not guillaumeb Apr 2015 #22

We know 'la charmante' Marine and her 'papa ours' very well, thanks. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #25

Quebecois par naissance, mais j'habite aux EU. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #36

On the knife edge, but I'll wager that if you asked the Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #41

racist in the same way as Reagan was racist guillaumeb Apr 2015 #68

Nor an absolute; which is why rational people hold varying opinions on its spectrum. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #7

How is pushing murder of someone else, freedom of speech? Rex Apr 2015 #12

^^^AMEN to that^^^! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #19

I can't believe they are going to allow this. nt Rex Apr 2015 #28

As I said up thread, freedom of expression ad absurdum... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29

you are confusing propaganda with reality guillaumeb Apr 2015 #21

So how is propaganda calling for the death of Jews, not hate speech? Rex Apr 2015 #27

When anti-Semitic propaganda is paid for by a Jew, guillaumeb Apr 2015 #38

I would say imo it needs to stop when it comes to public paid for transportation? Rex Apr 2015 #44

Voilà la bonne réponse ! There's the right answer! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #47

"Never said anything about banning it" jberryhill Apr 2015 #51

Okay so when someone comes along and replaces the word 'Jew' with XYZ Rex Apr 2015 #60

Especially since the music video being "quoted" never says "Jew" Scootaloo Apr 2015 #61

I don't think any political ads Oilwellian Apr 2015 #63

'Treating speech equally'...well, there's this from Seattle. As LittleBlue so pertinently asks: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #62

an interesting, free market solution. I like it. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #69

Start by asking the religioius clerics who preach that LGBT people should be killed. They do this. Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #88

I believe... Chan790 Apr 2015 #72

Do you believe if there was an anti-Christian ad on a public transit, it would be treated the same still_one Apr 2015 #78

In the US, no, it would not be run. guillaumeb Apr 2015 #84

I think you are right still_one Apr 2015 #89

Somewhere, I see 'hate speech' in this. immoderate Apr 2015 #2

No kidding... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4

Hate speech from Pam Geller? Scurrilous Apr 2015 #87

For a freedom to be meaningful, it must extend to both the absurd and the extreme. appal_jack Apr 2015 #3

In nations where this kind of incendiary language has caused wars costing millions of lives, Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5

How many of those nations had robust free speech protections prior to said tragedies? appal_jack Apr 2015 #83

How much money does the MTA bring in from advertising on busses and trains? surrealAmerican Apr 2015 #9

Sounds like a plan - or they could adopt the French method of mediation... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #11

That's an odd way you phrased it... Oktober Apr 2015 #10

Guess I should have rolled out this thing again for the sarcasm-challenged... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #13

I want to see ads on NCY buses that say "Pamela Geller is a hateful bigot" cali Apr 2015 #14

Now, that would be interesting. Do you think the judge Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17

Fuck yeah davidpdx Apr 2015 #76

Hamas MTV? Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #16

I sure do miss Yo! Hamas MTV Raps frylock Apr 2015 #32

LOL snooper2 Apr 2015 #85

I miss the game shows, like Remote Control Detonator. Dr. Strange Apr 2015 #73

My favorite category was Dead Or Israeli Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #75

Somebody needs to get to work on those KamaAina Apr 2015 #18

Somebody will see to it...but why allow the public square to be polluted Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #20

It's that darned First Amendment. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #30

But, advertising in favor of pot legalisation is NOT hate speech. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #45

The First Amendment doesn't have a "hate speech" exception. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #52

Not the case in the nations which lived through the Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #53

I hear you, but that's not how it is here. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #64

Major cultural difference between the no-holds-barred Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #67

Good. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #23

Sorry? Are you bringing up some jingoistic, 'Murca, fuck yeah!!!!! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #26

I like how you avoided everything I said and focused on icons 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #34

And, all Muslims are not Hamas or ISIS sympathizers Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #39

Where did I say anything about "All Muslims"? Go ahead point it out. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #40

Please read more closely: Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #42

Stop dodging my question, I don't give a damn about anything else you have to say. 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #43

Do it yourself, since you persist in putting words into my text which aren't there. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #46

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #48

You don't know the meaning of "literally," do you? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #31

Ooops! I also said "reincarnation"... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #37

teh NAZIS!!12 frylock Apr 2015 #33

If I were the judge, I think I'd have to make the same decision tishaLA Apr 2015 #24

Here's some interesting input by LittleBlue. As a judge how would Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #56

I think the appeals court was wrong nt tishaLA Apr 2015 #65

Thanks for answering. Might this go all the way to the SCOTUS? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #66

More about Pamela Geller Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #35

I love Cali's suggestion up thread davidpdx Apr 2015 #77

Court: Anti-Israel ad can be barred from Metro buses LittleBlue Apr 2015 #49

Good find, LittleBlue. Hate speech of whatever ilk Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #50

Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Apr 2015 #54

They exist simultaneously in two different federal court districts metalbot Apr 2015 #80

They even exist simultaneously on the same court Jim Lane Apr 2015 #86

Oh, joy. I have to see this stupid crap around the city now? stevenleser Apr 2015 #55

More of Pamela Geller's handiwork! Enjoy! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #58

Just tweeted a response to her... stevenleser Apr 2015 #57

Well done. Not that she'll pay the least bit of attention. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #59

People should be outraged by Hamas' genocidal fantasy tritsofme Apr 2015 #70

As an NYC resident, I expect these ads to get ye olde vandalism treatment - LiberalElite Apr 2015 #71

Good, waste her and her rabid followers' money. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #74

For people who would not dream of killing Jews fadedrose Apr 2015 #79

'Stirring the pot is what it is.' That's what hate speech is intended to do. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #81

No one will benefit fadedrose Apr 2015 #82

It says pro-Israel group treestar Apr 2015 #90