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Mon May 7, 2012, 02:46 PM May 2012

What you may not have known about Credit Checks and Credit Ratings. MUST KNOW AND SCREAM ABOUT [View all]

(I expect this thread to be closed hopefully it won't)


COLD HARD FACT: You are a slave to your credit rating!


I was responding to a thread about College students credit rating being checked and students loans not allowing them to get jobs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=652125


IT should be illegal for employers to check a person's credit for a job. It does not bare ANY reflection on them as an employee and this is why it should be illegal.

The Credit rating system is the only system I know where it penalizes a person because some check there credit. So you apply for a job and they check your credit Your credit score does go down.

Now more and more companies and businesses are checking peoples credit. You start services with Water or Gas or EVEN getting cable they are require (in most states) a credit check. Each time that check is ran it does knock points off your credit score.
NOW here is something that should piss people off SAY you are an existing customer and you are moving to a new house or moving to a new area and you want to keep your cable company. I did customer service for a cable company on the national level one thing I did do was transfer services--So I am speaking for what the protocol was for this company. Keep in mind that when you have X cable company that is a nationally known company it is basically franchised out (Like Mc Donald's.) Do whoever owns the franchise in New York isn't the same person who owns it in Texas or California. So one Franchise might demand a credit check that another franchise never did with you. LATELY HOWEVER this company was demanding credit checks. Now if you are moving within the same city you may think oh won't need a credit check you are just moving 3 streets over. Some areas require that credit check to transfer your services. You may think OR I'll just say I'm new start services than close the other account. Again a credit check is required.
NO the company will not take into account the fact you had service with them before. IF you are moving from New York to California THEY will not look at your score from your old residence THEY want another check done. REMEMBER -- CREDIT CHECK SCORE GOES DOWN

My friend recently got divorce He had a score of 850 at the start of his divorce. By the time everything was said and done he had a score of 200. How did that happen?

-He had to find a new place to live--Credit Check done by place he wanted to live.
-He had to get utilities set up for new place Water, Gas, Electric, and cable ALL required credit checks even though he had existing service --New account new credit check.
-He had 2 credit card with both his name and his ex's name. Credit Card companies (Worked for customer service for 1 company) Won't just close out the account --IT lowers your credit rating. So anytime you close a credit card it lowers your score.
-THAN he wanted cards to replace them. New Cards NEW account each card required a separate application (even though both card are Capital One card.) required a credit check so that is 2 more times his credit was check and lowered.

(This next set of events take place 3 months later)
So my friend is an IT/Computer programmer. He works for a company that is basically outsourced to other companies. So if a company doesn't have the money or doesn't want their own IT guys they hire my friend's company. My friend has his own set of "clients" He has served them well gotten 5 star reviews He basically is the one who trains other people working in this company. He is the best of the BEST --AT LEAST he thought that was how his company viewed him. The company got a new client and this new client required the WHOLE company employees be drug tested and credit checks ran. NOW even though my friend was not going to work for this company--different division company was handling their account--everyone had too to go thru the drug test and credit check. He goes thru the process then a few days later he gets called into the supervisor's office. Drug test came out fine BUT his credit score had a problem forcing them to put this employee of 15 years on a two month probation. The supervisor first ask how his life was going. Supervisor knew of the divorce and asked questions on his mental state and the like than he asked IF my friend had a gambling problem.

My friend couldn't understand the reason for the questions or the probation period. My friend was told that the credit check was 200 and that he recently took at lot of vacation time so they need to see if he is going to continue to perform at his normal level or if there is an issue they will have to reevaluate his standing in the company.

My friend e-mailed me today he is off the probation period and will not be getting any new clients because ALL the clients now have access to personnel files of those IT/programmers coming into their companies.

ALSO credit ratings can be wrecked by identity thief.

My husband when we first got married messed up my credit rating. I came into the marriage with my own car my mom co-signed for me. The financing company first demanded that I give them a copy of my marriage license in order to change my name or recognize my married name BUT my husband sent in the payment with my account number on the check that was accepted and processed.

Hubby said he's take care of that payment every month. He worked nights I worked days and my day would start at 5:30 a.m. getting up and ready for work than on the road. I would get home about 8:30 /9:00 at night. After a couple months of bills not getting paid on time and not having money for the weekend (both had credit unions that at the time didn't have MAC cards) we needed a system of some sort. Hubby would pay the bills and I did the grocery shopping (I had weekends off) and clean the house.

So I would see a stake of bill getting paid on time and we didn't any pass due bills and the like. So I thought everything was fine. My car got REPOed. It was the one bill hubby would forget about each month. That repo not only put a bad mark on my credit rating but on my mother's credit rating since she co-signed. eight years later she still can't get a car loan.


So much is now dependent on your credit rating and so much effects a person's credit rating that Bankers and companies basically have people in an never ending cycle and some trapped in a hopeless situation.

A credit rating isn't going to determine how well a person will do a job. It doesn't do anything but effect someone negatively and it should be illegal.

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credit pulls FOR CREDIT are different than other credit pulls. unblock May 2012 #1
They aren't suppose to affect your credit but what I've been hearing is that they are affecting Justice wanted May 2012 #2
that sounds like a company lawyer's response. unblock May 2012 #4
I do understand what you are saying that it isn't suppose to affect credit but I'm saying companies Justice wanted May 2012 #7
i agree that credit scores are chock full of errors and the accuracy standards suck unblock May 2012 #8
This is why I posted this. Credit checks shouldn't affect people but they are. Credit Reports Justice wanted May 2012 #10
yowza, hope all the medical problems are behind you. unblock May 2012 #28
Thank you. Justice wanted May 2012 #29
I was talking to a mortgage guy ashling May 2012 #9
Credit scoring isn't that black and white. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #3
Yes, I realize late payment and missed payment affect credit BUT The first example I gave of my Justice wanted May 2012 #6
Sorry, but there is no possible way a FICO score would move 650 points due to inquiries. bluesbassman May 2012 #11
He can't image what else other than inquieres did that. He was always on time with payments-usually Justice wanted May 2012 #16
Something is certainly wrong then. He should contact the Credit Bureaus to investigate. bluesbassman May 2012 #22
A judgement against him, perhaps? Stargazer09 May 2012 #80
I had a foreclosure and owe a CC company about $1000.. tridim May 2012 #70
i'll agree that credit pulls for employment is a poor boss's crutch. unblock May 2012 #13
unsolicited credit offers ashling May 2012 #12
unsolicited lenders are allowed to use a limited credit pull that doesn't affect your score unblock May 2012 #15
You have the right to block them. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #26
I'm not talking hundreds of points, ashling May 2012 #33
Sorry - was referring to the original comments Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #36
What's the saying, if you owe the bank $150,000 they own you, ashling May 2012 #43
Yeah, it is - and when you have that kind of cash Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #55
You can go to the FTC website and opt out of unsolicited offers. Fuddnik May 2012 #40
I'll certainly follow up on that, ashling May 2012 #46
double kick!!! Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #5
Great bullshit post joeglow3 May 2012 #14
I AM NOT MAKING THING UP! Justice wanted May 2012 #18
Yeah. He went from 100% perfect score to the only person 100 points below the minimum. joeglow3 May 2012 #27
No, but this story is wrong or missing MAJOR details REP May 2012 #62
"I AM NOT MAKING THING UP!" A-Schwarzenegger May 2012 #77
No fair! sibelian May 2012 #83
I will gladly A-Schwarzenegger May 2012 #86
I agree guardian May 2012 #32
My understanding is that all 3 use the same basic FICO model joeglow3 May 2012 #37
I think there are some differences. guardian May 2012 #42
While the poster, or the poster's friend, obviously got the numbers wrong, Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #50
We know the poster was discussing the impact of credit checks joeglow3 May 2012 #87
There is a woman Control-Z May 2012 #17
hmmm, Maybe this is something my friend should into if someone has a name similar to him OR Justice wanted May 2012 #19
I hate seeing threads like this that spread misinformation. slackmaster May 2012 #20
I am not misinforming people. Your credit score is affecting you more than you THINK! Justice wanted May 2012 #21
I am sure my credit score impacts much more than I am aware of, bighart May 2012 #24
I'm very well aware of how Bank of America has messed up my credit scores through false reporting slackmaster May 2012 #25
The story you're telling is missing details and is wrong in others REP May 2012 #64
That is not how credit scores work. First there is a difference between hard and soft credit checks WhollyHeretic May 2012 #23
I have no data to back this up but I strongly suspect that credit ratings are jimlup May 2012 #30
Not Capitalism. The problem is Fascism. slackmaster May 2012 #34
Corporate and state rule magic59 May 2012 #82
I agree. There is also a very insidious use here as well Horse with no Name May 2012 #31
The OP is urban myth and hysteria guardian May 2012 #35
Pretty much. 850 score, for one, is suspicious; 850 to 200 from score being alone pulled is fantasy REP May 2012 #61
Divorce itself can be a major "event" that affects credit scores SoCalDem May 2012 #38
Hello Consumer Financial Protection Bureau bl968 May 2012 #39
Such a rule already exists. See § 614 of the Fair Credit Reporting Act. slackmaster May 2012 #44
If employers didn't find useful information, they would not pay to do the credit check FarCenter May 2012 #41
"irresponsible in one aspect of their life is likely to be irresponsible in other aspects" guardian May 2012 #48
and for financial companies, a good credit rating is an indication of "something left to lose" magical thyme May 2012 #56
Then maybe it would be wise for all potential employees to do a credit check blackspade May 2012 #57
That's a very good idea FarCenter May 2012 #59
Maybe not? guardian May 2012 #66
Well thanks! blackspade May 2012 #74
I don't disagree. guardian May 2012 #78
Nice job pissing on the working class there. Zalatix May 2012 #67
Your credit score is an indicator of how valuable you are to a creditor. rucky May 2012 #75
I imagine Bernie Madoff and Ken Lay had outstanding credit ratings... LanternWaste May 2012 #84
While I agree that Credit Checks are a Problem, OP is Incorrect on One Point Indykatie May 2012 #45
How about either requiring credit rating agencies to publicize their criteria Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #47
Their criteria are published and well-documented. Their specific algorithms are proprietary. slackmaster May 2012 #49
No they aren't. What is "public information" are vague guidelines with no specific Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #51
The courts have ruled that credit agencies and lenders CAN have private actions brought against them slackmaster May 2012 #53
I've been down that road myself, I can certainly understand your dilemma. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #63
Bank of America is clearly in violation of the California Civil Code in my case, but I doubt... slackmaster May 2012 #65
I'm afraid you can "bank" on it. Too many of "our" representatives have made fortunes Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #89
The worst case for me is the fraudulent derogatory credit ages off slackmaster May 2012 #90
Orange Julius used to play for the 76ers. Major Hogwash May 2012 #52
I've often wondered why a credit check negatively affects the credit score. KansDem May 2012 #54
People who have made numerous application for credit are statistically a bit more likely to default slackmaster May 2012 #58
Thanks KansDem May 2012 #79
You don't go from 850 to 200 from having your credit score pulled REP May 2012 #60
I run credit ratings every day. The op is bs. NCTraveler May 2012 #68
YOU KNOW FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM I AM TALKING OUT OF MY ASS I WILL TELL YOU Justice wanted May 2012 #69
I used to work Credit and Collections for SWBell. Credit reports don't work that way. REP May 2012 #71
RE post 69: "I AM TALKING OUT OF MY ASS" guardian May 2012 #72
Sounds like post hoc ergo propter hoc slackmaster May 2012 #76
This thread is exemplary of something I see often. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #81
Its definitely a reflection of the power the private sector can wield. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #73
I pay for monthly credit reports on myself mainer May 2012 #85
Get it out of employment...Period!! Left Coast2020 May 2012 #88
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