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In reply to the discussion: Chafee and Webb announced. [View all]Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)167. I'm waiting to hear substantive policy positions from all of them.
Right now the only one who has done anything even close is O'Malley.
Hillary has offered some unsurpisingly vacuous pieces of poll-tested pablum, not much else.
As far as left or right, Chafee as a Republican still managed to vote against the IWR. Im not sure where that puts Hillary on the graph.
If Webb or Chafee take positions most in line with my values, I will support either of them in the primaries. Same with Clinton. Same with O'Malley or Sanders, for that matter, if they run and run as Democrats.
i still think it is way too early to demand support for anyone, although far be it for me to mess with anyone's hobbies.
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"There are some of us who really do not give a shit who is in the White House."
sufrommich
Apr 2015
#2
you did not say "certain" policy, just that it didnt matter. of course it matters, for some of us.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#13
Well, glad you came back to tell us there is no difference between the parties.
zappaman
Apr 2015
#36
YES... we KNOW we are in an oligarchy and we do not need you to tells us we are. we also KNOW
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#48
all opinions are not fact. i am stating facts, to illustrate where you are flatly, wrong.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#57
again. no one is arguing oligarchy. we are arguing that this election matters.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#72
i get you disagree. and i am saying, the supreme crt matter. you are saying it is minor.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#80
yes. if we say stupid shit like there is no difference in the party. hence it making no sense
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#85
first post. party/election does not matter. they only thing i hae called out, consistently,
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#108
but... it matters in this election. you cannot deny. so MAYBE your sense of pure
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#114
again. i do not give a shit about your oligarchy argument. i give a shit you telling me i do not
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#123
oligarchy does piss me off. i address it regularly. that is what is so stupid. you are making me
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#128
my gosh, really nadin? it is not like i have not repeated myself a number of times. telling me it
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#135
OMG... i am throwing at you, the incorrect OPINION that the election does not matter.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#143
no. dismissing people. and you do it over and over. once again. your big picture so much larger
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#148
So if it doesn't matter, what harm is there in voting...just in case? Laziness?
randome
Apr 2015
#158
so "perhaps" up to one million Iraqi souls would not have died? I'd say that matters
zazen
Apr 2015
#89
some of us recognize the power in the balance of the supreme crt. the difference a vote will make
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#12
look. honestly. i am really not interested in the rest of your story. telling me this race does NOT
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#52
interesting and that works for me. two different position. i can respect that, anyway. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#61
Yes, issues before the Supreme Court like equal rights for example are "minor".
zappaman
Apr 2015
#28
yes. and then my good friends who participate in this populist movement of theirs ask me WHERE i am
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#29
i am the divider for not going to the back of the bus like a good, nice little girl? nt
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#41
except, from what i see, i have the power in my no. not the other way around. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#62
You're kind of right, Nadin. We're stuck with two flavors of the same shit soda, it seems.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#16
she is totally wrong too. see how that works? i do see how you walk the line though. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#31
It makes a huge difference for a gay person who wants to get married.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#34
yet... we have dems stating it is a minor matter. totally fuggin' amazing. surely,
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#40
Telling people voting doesn't matter and both parties are the same is NOT cute. n/t
zappaman
Apr 2015
#200
To me, you seemed to indicate you had given up, I'm glad I was mistaken
QuestionAlways
Apr 2015
#208
fall in line? a democratic board, adn democrats saying, there is a difference in the parties.
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#75
i have no problems with ANY dem. i have a problem with populist party that tells me i do not matter
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#84
I certainly would, too, and would fight such comments or suggestions that you do not matter.
NYC_SKP
Apr 2015
#88
you "kinda" agree and validated nadin. yet, she was stating we did not matter. calling out that
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#106
Hillary has a record on social issues, a good one, but that's not all that's important.
Autumn
Apr 2015
#97
hence, me welcoming all dems and an independent to hear what they have to say. without throwing
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#113
you and i agree. and i will repeat. i have no problem with any of the dems. it is populist party
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#117
I would have a problem with any party or poster telling me my issues don't matter
Autumn
Apr 2015
#120
Notice I said, "officially". He informally stated his intent (and Webb is exploring his
FSogol
Apr 2015
#77
True. But Chafee, imo, has all but officially announced since he did it publicly,
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#81
Out of all of those candidates, O'Malley is the only one playing the long game.
FSogol
Apr 2015
#103
Warren hasn't "officially" announced and people are happy to support her...
brooklynite
Apr 2015
#159
They can't get anyone they like to run, so that only leaves them one thing to do.
William769
Apr 2015
#8
Sad, isn't it? Those people believe everything is about them, not the country.
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#27
Working to build support from the ground up for a challenger is hard work.
NYC Liberal
Apr 2015
#153
I'm glad they are in. I don't care for Webb, don't know enough to say about Chafee...
HereSince1628
Apr 2015
#70
sitting with the position that so many do not matter, in our political party, simply
seabeyond
Apr 2015
#79
I'm giving Chaffee a "maybe". Webb a "not likely". Hillary a "no sale".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2015
#98
Chaffee has announced his candidacy. Webb announced an exploratory committee.
AtomicKitten
Apr 2015
#110
And all that has transpired since for both is more relevant than a decades-old voting record.
AtomicKitten
Apr 2015
#138
All I know is Chafee became a Democrat after his approval ratings sank to 22%
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#141
So your argument is that because there may be candidates to the right of Hillary we should be happy
cui bono
Apr 2015
#115
Obviously you forgot to wear these when catching skittles out of a unicorns ass.
zappaman
Apr 2015
#171
All "the love" is already backing Bernie Sanders. Perfect on social issues and not owned
Zorra
Apr 2015
#155
Do we have a Senate liberal enough to support him? No? Then he'd be just another lame-duck, one-term
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#169
By that line of thinking: Because the current Senate is not liberal enough to support
Zorra
Apr 2015
#194
*Your* "line of thinking" is *way off*. President Obama compromises with Congress
BlueCaliDem
Apr 2015
#195
Right, because holding out a candidate who has repeatedly said they won't run
BainsBane
Apr 2015
#172
"i realize you think----"... she says, followed by something she made up out of thin air
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#175