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In reply to the discussion: Planet Fitness cancels woman's membership after her complaints of transgender woman in locker room [View all]LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)248. This thread has exposed some real ugliness on DU
Trans people have so few supporters when compared to other vulnerable groups, and so many who hate them, it's just natural that we should defend them.
Why are progressives piling on? They have enough shit in their lives to deal with already. They don't need the handful of supportive spaces taken from them by bigots. If you don't like trans people, if your purpose here is to mock and demean them, take that to the countless spaces where people agree with those hurtful views. There are no shortage of those who agree on both the left and right. Have some mercy. Leave DU as one of the few places where people aren't trying to make trans folks feel like shit.
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Planet Fitness cancels woman's membership after her complaints of transgender woman in locker room [View all]
Contrary1
Mar 2015
OP
Generally a letter from a physician or psychiatrist who generally writes it after x amount of time
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#22
Surgery is irrelevant so yes. Regarding hormones the vast majority of trans people take
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#48
Or if they live in my home county and can't even get a diagnosis that doesn't involve
Jamastiene
Mar 2015
#118
Thanks for just calling me a he. :( and any ordinary man who slaps on a wig or styles his hair
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#291
I think most peoples' concerns about this are based on failure to understand
HereSince1628
Mar 2015
#101
I think the poster is thinking that there are most likely some a-holes out there who are hetero male
cui bono
Mar 2015
#172
I don't know how the legal angles work, but they promise a "no judgement zone" in their ads. I'd
genwah
Mar 2015
#139
This is a private club that can enforce their own rules, especially regarding who is and is not
underahedgerow
Mar 2015
#2
Is this a double negative, saying you agree with that now hidden bigoted post?Please clarify, thanks
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#228
I'm just waiting for one of the two in this subthread to start talking about
Jamastiene
Mar 2015
#203
No, it is about a woman who thought another woman wasn't "female-looking" enough.
Behind the Aegis
Mar 2015
#13
Don't forget TSA's Full Body Scanners! I guess now all will need to be fitted with these, you know,
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#36
Very very few trans women use women's locker rooms or bathrooms before transition. This number is so
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#26
I can't think of a perfect solution, but I can certainly empathize. The core problem is IMO that
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#40
The thing is I'm invisible. I still don't out myself as trans because I "pass" and while
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#47
Right, there is still way too much sexual abuse of women - but what I want to know is
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#113
By how much and by what measure will the current policy of the club affect this number?
LanternWaste
Mar 2015
#293
That was my thought too! It was all explained to her, but yet she persisted. I agree with
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#43
She knew by the time they tossed her the fuck out of the club because she kept running her mouth.
Hassin Bin Sober
Mar 2015
#46
If you were a father and you took your 8 year old to the ladies', and a person who appeared
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#90
You seem comfortable with your 'daughter in the bathroom with a trans-woman' story.
icymist
Mar 2015
#256
No, but, as you said, you can't tell the difference, so I'm assuming you are advocating for...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#174
This woman was probably concerned about the issue of safety, and that's a real issue,
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#177
No, see, they should be segregated, for thier protection, of course! n/t
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#180
Eh, woke up from going to bed really early, just laying in bed tapping on my phone...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#185
I have been explicitly including transwomen in the overall group of women, so yes.
pnwmom
Mar 2015
#186
Thats an assumption on your part, and its offtopic. Indeed if it were an issue....
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#179
"Protect the rights of the minority while respecting the wishes of the majority"? Really?
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2015
#289
You seem to miss that she is saying "straight" men, so we'd need some sort of sexual orientation
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#235
I wouldn't know, but the whole notion is ridiculous because it's not an issue in the first place.
Oneironaut
Mar 2015
#219
Still concern trolling I see, at least you didn't link to a TERF website again.
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#167
You missed words there. "what is a solution that will keep all women safe, INCLUDING transgender
uppityperson
Mar 2015
#231
Then thank goodness in this case the person the woman was freaking out about
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Mar 2015
#52
What solution to this problem do you propose? I look like a woman. I would get harassed
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#135
Your opinion is quite familiar, since it is the basis of right-wing framing for laws against TG
Starry Messenger
Mar 2015
#91
Would you hold the same consideration for a white woman who won't ride...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#182
In all fairness to the trans woman she was probably attempting to pass as female
MillennialDem
Mar 2015
#138
I have a question, do you still think the trangender who have SRS "deform their minds and bodies"?
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#213
Ah, so now it comes out, transgenderism is a fad. Nice to actually encounter a bona fide TERF on DU.
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#217
She should go back to her home Planet Bigot if she doesn't wanna get with the times.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Mar 2015
#42
I assume she does not want them in the building at all, or maybe even out in public. nt
Logical
Mar 2015
#86
If people did have to change clothes in front of each other do you see a potential problem?
Nye Bevan
Mar 2015
#106
What an idiot. I bet she's a bigot on a mission who hated transpeople before she
Oneironaut
Mar 2015
#57
That's what I think, she was looking to turn it into a situation. I agree with you! n/t
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#159
So can any dude claim to "identify as a woman" and get to use the women's locker room?
Nye Bevan
Mar 2015
#75
LOL, yes, any man can do that. Jesus, questions like that is what cause this issue. I guess......
Logical
Mar 2015
#89
Well, usually companies that actually deal with trans-gendered customers require a doctor's note.
haele
Mar 2015
#94
It's not just "hot chicks" who might be made uncomfortable by naked people who they perceive as men
Nye Bevan
Mar 2015
#104
To insure "comfort", do we then put the onus on the club to insure no manly-looking women
haele
Mar 2015
#114
Ah, yes, someone forgot to tell me that trans-women were sexual predators...
backscatter712
Mar 2015
#143
That totally *isn't* the solution that makes the most sense, actually.
Spider Jerusalem
Mar 2015
#163
You can always rely on a few to show up, regulars too, why they aren't...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#171
I'm always stunned by some of the comments on a supposedly liberal progressive site. There
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#162
I'm a cisgender straight male, as far as adjectives go, and there is a learning curve...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#190
I think its the open to learning part, I approached it with curiousity rather than...
Humanist_Activist
Mar 2015
#198
I've pretty much reached that same conclusion. It's ripe for intrusion by those seeking
RKP5637
Mar 2015
#209
On the bright side, threads like this make it easy to update my ignore list. n/t
backscatter712
Mar 2015
#286
As well as the same old sexism and male priviledge that women are treated to.
Matariki
Mar 2015
#252
That is an absurd comparison. Respect for women means not marginalizing their voices.
Matariki
Mar 2015
#259
Actually it turns out that 'Carlotta Sklodowska' identifies as male on her facebook page
Matariki
Mar 2015
#298
In reality, may as well make it anything goes as far as lockeroom use if you have to let anyone
brewens
Mar 2015
#263
What a thread this was to read. Wish I could say I was surprised by some of the posts but I can't.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2015
#272
If nothing else, these threads do tend to clue me in on intolerant DUers. This one certainly did...
LanternWaste
Mar 2015
#292