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In reply to the discussion: Laser Focus 2-3-15 - ISIS, Some Fellow Liberals and War [View all]leveymg
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Nobody seems to want to put a finger on exactly how much cash is still flowing from ISIS funders. But, everyone agrees that support from the Saudis and Gulf states continues to be substantial. See, http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/whos-funding-isis-wealthy-gulf-angel-investors-officials-say-n208006
If the Saudis and Qataris won't fully cooperate, then assets seizures and arrests are the next step.
If the majority of ISIS oil revenues are going through the black market in Turkey, then obviously further measures (including sanctions) need to be imposed there. Last June, at its height, a Turkish opposition MP estimated the annual oil revenues at $800 million. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/whos-funding-isis-wealthy-gulf-angel-investors-officials-say-n208006.
If accurate, that was about 40% of the total ISIS operating budget as stated by the group. Some estimates placed the IS annual total budget as high as $3 billion. See, http://thehill.com/policy/defense/228465-isis-puts-payments-to-poor-disabled-in-2-billion-budget; http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-news-caliphate-unveils-first-annual-budget-2bn-250m-surplus-war-chest-1481931
The $800 million figure is at the top end of the estimates. US sources quoted by CNN last October stated that ISIS oil income was more likely half that figure: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/06/world/meast/isis-funding/
Sources familiar with the subject say that ISIS' "burn' rate" -- how much the group spends -- is huge, including salaries, weapons and other expenses. For ISIS' oil sales, sources told CNN, the group probably makes between $1 million and $2 million per day, but probably on the lower end.
Along with everyone else, the returns on ISIS oil are probably a fraction of what they were at the height of world oil prices a year ago. Plus, the US and allies are bombing the group's oil platforms and vehicles. That has cut production and export to the point where US commanders now acknowledged that oil sales aren't the source of most ISIS funds, and that they are coming from donations, "a lot of donations":
We know that oil revenue is no longer the lead source of their income in dollars, Pentagon spokesperson Rear Admiral John Kirby told reporters during a press briefing on Tuesday.
ISIS loss of income is compounded by its losses on the battlefield as the group has lost literally hundreds and hundreds of vehicles that they cant replace, Kirby said.
Theyve got to steal whatever they want to get, and theres a finite number.
ISIS is instead depending on a lot of donations as one of the main sources of income. They also have a significant black market program going on, Kirby said.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/02/05/Pentagon-oil-is-no-longer-ISIS-main-source-of-income-.html
That leaves a big hole in the Caliphate's budget - that gets filled by someone.
Yes, any of these steps would entail difficulties and costs. But, that is what has be done if the Administration is truly serious about eradicating ISIS.