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Coyote_Bandit

(6,783 posts)
21. So.................
Wed Apr 25, 2012, 10:40 PM
Apr 2012

You find it acceptable that my family was plundered and made refugees - even though they were barely able to eek out a living in their Southern mountain abode and did not have slaves or support the Confederacy?

Would you find that a tragedy if my family had been black freedmen?

Assuming it were wrong to plunder and make refugees of civil war era black Southern freedmen, would it be acceptable to do likewise to white Southerners who did not have slaves or support the Confederacy? If so, why? Were they not entitled to due process of law? Are they to be presumed guilty simply due to the color of their skin or their place of residence?

Do you find civilian casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan acceptable?

I don't find it acceptable to judge people based on where they live or their place of national origin. Nor do I find the plundering and displacement of innocents and civilians acceptable. Nor do I believe that one family or individual is less significant or less important than any other group or race. That is the kind of belief that ultimately concludes that individuals are subserviant to the state or the church or whatever other group is seeking submission. It is the same type of belief that eventually concludes that the corporation and the profits and tax dollars it generates is more important than the welfare of the consumer or the safety of the corporate worker. I don't consider any of these things consistent with liberal and progressive political beliefs.

I'm not advocating or defending the display of the Confederate flag. I'm pointing out that there were civilians who did not support the Confederacy and who did not have slaves who were killed, displaced and pillaged. To deny that is to deny the reality of war. To defend that is to embrace injustice IMHO.

Just my opinion. Your mileage may vary.


Another response bongbong Apr 2012 #1
yeah, and Germans really think it's cool to display the Nazi flag, too RainDog Apr 2012 #2
I am pretty sure it's illegal Meiko Apr 2012 #37
Ok, but your heritage IS hate. nt nanabugg Apr 2012 #3
Oh dear ... another Southern bashing thread Bryn Apr 2012 #4
I'm not reading it that way gratuitous Apr 2012 #9
I don't see it that way either Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #25
I was born in Virginia and have lived here for much of my life (see my avatar). If you can not ... 11 Bravo Apr 2012 #11
oh dear thou doth protest too loudly MattBaggins Apr 2012 #12
Did he mention the South??? Frankly, I've never met a Southerner with sense who would claim that msanthrope Apr 2012 #18
This isn't South-bashing Canuckistanian Apr 2012 #23
The most astonishing part of ending the Civil War was a challenge that comes down to each of us-- HereSince1628 Apr 2012 #5
Do you think Lincoln would've been down with displays of the Confederate flag? RainDog Apr 2012 #6
haha... I love it! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #7
Meanwhile Coyote_Bandit Apr 2012 #8
so, Germans who did not agree with the Nazis RainDog Apr 2012 #13
Ummmm...... Coyote_Bandit Apr 2012 #16
I'm from the south RainDog Apr 2012 #19
So................. Coyote_Bandit Apr 2012 #21
peace RainDog Apr 2012 #24
Ya Know Coyote_Bandit Apr 2012 #31
That's actually a pretty hotly disputed question RZM Apr 2012 #28
yes. war is fucked up RainDog Apr 2012 #32
Hail to Generals Sherman, Sheridan and Grant. Hail to my heritage and flag, the stars and bars. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #10
well Go Vols Apr 2012 #27
You're not trying to equate white southern slave states to Native Americans, are you? RainDog Apr 2012 #34
They never had such a love for the Confederate Flag until the Civil Rights Act passed n/t doc03 Apr 2012 #14
Bingo! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #30
Not every part of your "heritage" is worth celebrating. surrealAmerican Apr 2012 #15
Correction: unless we are also Republicans. Liberal Gramma Apr 2012 #39
Mine is "Oh, your heritage is treason and slavery, you're proud of that?" TheKentuckian Apr 2012 #17
While I agree with your distaste at seeing the Confederate Battle Flag being used as "heritage" ornotna Apr 2012 #20
Yes. mmonk Apr 2012 #22
No, but feel free to venerate the Union cause without killing anybody RZM Apr 2012 #26
My Grandfather fought for the Germans in WWI. AnnieBW Apr 2012 #29
I have one at mine hfojvt Apr 2012 #35
LOL!!! Awesome! The Stars and Bars = TREASON Zalatix Apr 2012 #33
that's a really hateful response hfojvt Apr 2012 #36
The Confederacy lasted four years. How much heritage can there be? Scuba Apr 2012 #38
I think we should have more flag-burnings. backscatter712 Apr 2012 #40
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