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cynatnite

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25. Kids don't need protected? Seriously?

Wed Apr 25, 2012, 07:30 PM

Apr 2012

My dad was a farm mechanic. I spent summers working on the farms of relatives. My sister and her husband own a large farm in Kansas.

We grew wheat, alfalfa, and hay. There were cattle, too.

There was plenty of large equipment which were dangerous if you did not know what you were doing. My sister and I have been fortunate to not have had serious injuries, but we had a few minor ones over the years.

Only recently were two teen boys severely injured in Oklahoma from an auger accident. Two girls in Illinois were killed in an electrical accident while working on their family farm.

Do you still think that kids ought to be encouraged?

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Dept of Labor: Kids can't work on family farms.... [View all] Bennyboy Apr 2012 OP

From what I have read I would have to support those restrictions. LiberalFighter Apr 2012 #1

I think it's ridiculous. cali Apr 2012 #6

There are child labor laws for everything else obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #12

are children truly endangered by working on family farms? cali Apr 2012 #16

Do most family businesses have the injury rate farm work does? JoeyT Apr 2012 #41

"City people don't know shit about it" NCTraveler Apr 2012 #79

"City people don't know shit about it" ...bwahhahahahaa spanone Apr 2012 #103

This is a bad bill Warpy Apr 2012 #2

This is perhaps the single most ignorant proposal I have heard in a long, long time. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #3

Why oh why do people consistently fall for the right wing frame over and over again. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #47

You know what has the highest rate of death? TheCruces Apr 2012 #62

Or riding in a car without a seat belt...? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #74

Dumb idea kctim Apr 2012 #4

Once had a High-larious argument with a DUer who swore this didn't happen to begin with. Romulox Apr 2012 #5

That what didn't happen? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #13

*Legal* child labor in the United States, and not just of the "family farm" variety. Romulox Apr 2012 #14

They can only work as school janitors... smirkymonkey Apr 2012 #7

That is patently untrue... cynatnite Apr 2012 #8

Protected from planting garlic? Kids need to be encouraged, not protected. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #19

Kids don't need protected? Seriously? cynatnite Apr 2012 #25

Minor injuries are inconsequential to the learning that happens. jtuck004 Apr 2012 #37

Can you justify doing nothing with over 16,000 injured children on farms? cynatnite Apr 2012 #40

How many are injured playing sports? dkf Apr 2012 #54

So, you are advocating FOR kid injuries? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #55

Oh for goodness sakes. dkf Apr 2012 #57

The sports that require padding? LanternWaste Apr 2012 #75

But still allow them to play? joeglow3 Apr 2012 #102

You need regulations to keep from killing a kid? jtuck004 Apr 2012 #83

Having a few kids get hurt every year on a farm is more acceptable snooper2 Apr 2012 #71

maybe they should have a child-labor, or child-apprentice licensing program Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #9

If you grow up on a farm, you work obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #11

I bet $1000 Dokkie Apr 2012 #15

If it puts a kid's life at risk...damn straight... cynatnite Apr 2012 #17

Farming is consistently listed in the "top 10 most dangerous jobs" etherealtruth Apr 2012 #29

You can't just say "farming" and hope to be accurate ag_dude Apr 2012 #66

That's kind of the point of the legislation. Feed chickens - yes. Drive a dangerous machine - no. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #77

the kids should be thrown into a for-profit prison Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #42

Does this mean my kid doesn't have to mow the lawn? Bake Apr 2012 #73

The most gruesome Dokkie Apr 2012 #91

My son is now 24. Bake Apr 2012 #97

everything is dangerous... but this fear of danger brings with it a new set of problems belcffub Apr 2012 #101

Good obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #10

Can we get a source other than the Daily Caller? sadbear Apr 2012 #18

My two daughters have grown up on our farm doing chores riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #20

How much of this is lies, how much spin, how much pulled out of their asses? joeybee12 Apr 2012 #21

Link to a website that links to the proposed changes. Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #22

Specifically EXEMPTS kids on their own family farms--see link inside Maeve Apr 2012 #69

This is a crock of shit and guess who is behind it. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #23

Thank you. I heard this on RW radio on the drive home and knew there was something missing underpants Apr 2012 #26

A post above tipped me off. lpbk2713 Apr 2012 #38

You just beat me to it. I just finished a google search debunking this riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #27

this would have still affected me... belcffub Apr 2012 #36

Nope... Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #61

ok... so what is a "such person standing in the place of a parent" belcffub Apr 2012 #63

Do you own a farm? joeglow3 Apr 2012 #105

30 years too late! DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #24

Yay, drive out more family farmers! Big Ag will love this!!! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #28

That was my first thought as well. bluedigger Apr 2012 #34

You do know, don't you that the source is right-wing? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #44

ridiculous. not the government's job to regulate what chores kids do within their own families. HiPointDem Apr 2012 #30

Nope EthclCtzn Apr 2012 #32

Could you please provide evidence from a source other the right wing one in the OP Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #46

Here is what the Dept. of Labor has to say about this... cynatnite Apr 2012 #31

Thankfully. Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #49

Is no one else reporting on this? Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #33

What else is there to use it for? Saving Hawaii Apr 2012 #50

You should really delete this post mythology Apr 2012 #35

Organic farming is a civil rights issue.. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #39

I think before you assert that the new child labor protections would affect family farms, Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #43

Your source is blatantly right-wing. Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #45

I agree with everything in the article. EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #48

Really? Because I actually read the new regulations and they don't do what the OPs right wing Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #51

I at least disagree with their decision to spell Buies Creek "Buis Creek". Just shows Tunkamerica Apr 2012 #56

self delete nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #52

Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to Amend the Child Labor in Agriculture Regulations steve2470 Apr 2012 #53

That's the same Daily Caller story posted in the OP pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #58

ah ok, i'll delete it then, thanks nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #59

no offense but.... steve2470 Apr 2012 #60

Well, ProSense Apr 2012 #67

Farm work is dangerous and underpaid. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #64

Oh please. Are you actually asserting that most kids born on farms cali Apr 2012 #65

No bullshit. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #72

Sorry, mine is not theoretical cali Apr 2012 #92

Probably imaginary then. nt Remmah2 Apr 2012 #98

Yes obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #81

It's possible to get hurt on a farm and not be found for hours/days. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #99

This is a HOAX--another faux outrage moment--read the facts, people! Maeve Apr 2012 #68

This story is all Repub lies Taitertots Apr 2012 #70

Harumph harumph harumph! progressoid Apr 2012 #76

Total RW BS tilsammans Apr 2012 #78

Awesome..... Bennyboy Apr 2012 #80

As other have rightly pointed out, this is right-wing propaganda Hugabear Apr 2012 #82

Apparently the Labor Dept. is right wing too. former9thward Apr 2012 #86

No, ProSense Apr 2012 #87

if it is not "something it's not" what is it :) belcffub Apr 2012 #93

No they withdrew the rule because it was over the top. former9thward Apr 2012 #106

Update: Labor department widthdraws proposed rule dealing with children who work in agricultural... PoliticAverse Apr 2012 #84

This law would not stop kids from working on the family farm. Curmudgeoness Apr 2012 #85

Too late ProSense Apr 2012 #88

It seems to me that most people who support this have never worked on a farm. I grow up working on a Synicus Maximus Apr 2012 #89

Farm girl here - that is as stupid as it gets. How else do we learn farming. This is not something jwirr Apr 2012 #90

At 12 years old I worked... meaculpa2011 Apr 2012 #94

The admin has withdrawn the proposal cali Apr 2012 #95

I guess they've withdrawn it.. Upton Apr 2012 #96

If you read up thread Capt. Obvious Apr 2012 #100

this has been repeated several times belcffub Apr 2012 #107

This is stupid -- I started driving tractor when I was 6 years old FarCenter Apr 2012 #104