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In reply to the discussion: How Benedict Cumberbatch's family made a fortune from slavery [View all]GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)30. To be fair;
how should he be punished?
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It's where his position in life came from. But of course it's unimportant to some.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#15
Slave profits, for example, gave many the freedom to achieve in the arts. Most people don't find
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#58
You're laboring under a misapprehension. Nowhere have I said that anyone is resonsible for the
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#63
I'm not sure how many times I have to patiently explain: I've done no such thing.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#65
Time to bring back UNREC!!!! You can pick your friends, you can't pick your relatives!!!
MADem
Jan 2015
#22
Posting famous people's ancestries is not a stupid thing, especially when those famous people
Dont call me Shirley
Jan 2015
#45
As a now banned member once wrote, "The technique is called "zealotry trolling"
FSogol
Jan 2015
#239
So what is he supposed to do? (It's Benedict, by the way; not Bernard)
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2015
#2
I think its great that he's making a film about that very subject, the slave trade.
NYC_SKP
Jan 2015
#7
One of the local PBS stations here showed some Sherlock episodes yesterday and Wednesday.
greatauntoftriplets
Jan 2015
#130
I put Sign of Three down as one of the best, most cleverly written episodes of television...
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#243
Things have changed since richard burton was a lad, m'dear. You look at most of the renowned
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#14
You think because actors appeared in a drama about east enders, they were born in the east end?
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#70
I know what east enders is, and i've seen a few episodes. I also looked through the list of stars
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#137
You mean famous actors like James McAvoy, Gerard Butler, Charlie Hunnam, Ben Whishaw,
hughee99
Jan 2015
#38
Charlie Hunnam? Did you see what his mom, Katie Sagal, did to his wife the doctor?
NYC_SKP
Jan 2015
#46
I started taking a look through your list but stopped at orlando bloom. You can't seriously think
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#47
You seem to be implying that only wealthy people are able to become actors . . .
markpkessinger
Jan 2015
#92
I didn't imply any such thing. But I'll bet there are more upper middle to upper class people who
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#94
and i could make a list of actors who came from great wealth, starting with julia louis-dreyfus of
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#145
You highlighted "was an arts scholar". Why then say "I don't see anything about a scholarship"?
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2015
#75
being a scholar means you got a scholarship? not where i come from. being a arts scholar means
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#80
Well, you don't come from the UK. It does mean you got a scholarship here.
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2015
#86
well, thank you for the reference. partial scholarship, by other accounts.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#110
According to him, his grandmother paid 2/3 of his fee at Harrow. That's about 20K a year. I know
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#119
Benedict Cumberbatch, star of Sherlock, has talked about posh-bashing in the UK.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#123
I've seen Sherlock; I like it. I like Cumberbach (or at least his persona). But I'll say it's damn
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#12
You've really hit a raw nerve with your ancestry posts NewDeal_Dem. A lot of peeps have their
Dont call me Shirley
Jan 2015
#48
BUT, that 1830s fortune can be the foundation of the rest of the family fortune
kwassa
Jan 2015
#144
I think people generally take it for granted that capitalists reinvest their capital. To make more
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#148
why would you think the proceeds from slavery wouldn't be reinvested? In industry, for example?
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#136
you don't know how it was invested. maybe it was invested in child labor or textile sweatshops
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#188
you apparently don't know what 'laundered money' is, despite your vast knowlege (which i bow to,
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#187
slavery became illegal in england and its possessions in 1833. The cumberbatches owned
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#201
no, i'm just too dumb to understand the english language well as you do, miz nance
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#172
what a stupid claim. the slave trade was the source of any money the family had to invest. it was
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#151
but miz nance, you've already explained to us illiterates that invested dirty money becomes clean
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#174
Then why are you here dispensing your venomous literary droppings? For someone who
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#203
To be fair; he's in a position to make so much money because he's the several times removed
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#13
It's not personal. But people without such advantages should understand how things really work
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#49
2/3 of his tuition at harrow was paid by his grandma. that was about 20K/year for about 4 years.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#155
exactly, those with connections and family name/money without talent would do some shitty reality
JI7
Jan 2015
#37
Shitty reality shows pay well; better than 90-95% of the working population, I'd bet.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#83
Funny how 'talent' seems to accrue more to those who come from 30,000/year schools than
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#52
Am I suppose to be mad at Benedict because of something his great, great, great, great grandfather
Pisces
Jan 2015
#19
the OP thinks people like cumberbatch are more to blame for emmett till's death, racist cops
JI7
Jan 2015
#41
I remember -YOU- attributing that view to me, but I don't remember espousing it.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#156
I find the responses to your recents posts quite curious for a "progressive" political board.
Trillo
Jan 2015
#26
The level of venom is kind of surprising, yes. You'd think some of the posters had a vested
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#157
I partially agree with you, and partially don't. Your point of view is valid ...
kwassa
Jan 2015
#164
Thanks. It's disheartening to see on a democratic board. For a tired idealist.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#179
Hey, let's go back to the Roman Empire and trace descendants of those slave owners.
eShirl
Jan 2015
#28
Or go back to the original sellers of the slaves, the one which captured the slaves and sold them.
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#33
And then you replied to post #33 "The Roman army", you wanted to go back to the Roman Empire
Thinkingabout
Jan 2015
#114
I personally feel tremendous guilt as to what my ancestors did to the Neanderthals.
Throd
Jan 2015
#31
I didn't miss the point at all, and nothing you say in your post is news to me. and as a matter
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#185
"all over the place"? really? I'm not seeing all these nobodies in the acting trade. anna nicole
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#59
I can pull out 5 actors from privileged backgrounds too. doesn't prove that's the norm.
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#171
when i think of a "nobody," i think of someone working at mcdonalds etc, not a college educated
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#217
I'm tired of trying to clarify the point with people who clearly have no interest and in fact
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#73
I think Cumberbach is a good actor and probably a decent person (at least, his persona seems
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#87
If he benefited at all from his family history, it's because his parents are actors
renate
Jan 2015
#74
i'm not sure you can say he wouldn't have ended up an actor. connections help, but takes talent.
unblock
Jan 2015
#79
Bingo. Cumberbatch is phenomenal in The Imitation Game, abt a brilliant gay man persecuted to death
Hekate
Jan 2015
#135
I wonder what your next OP will be about... and I'm waiting with breathless anticipation.
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2015
#101
much more current is when slavery continued from Americas prison system. Hardcore from after slaves
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#108
Here is slavery of thousands of Americans, much more current. All documented from official records.
Sunlei
Jan 2015
#134
I posted another thread to show why this smear against Cumberbatch is so wrong
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#139
Yawn. You've only been doing this a few days, and your shtick's already gotten old.
NuclearDem
Jan 2015
#153
I hope you don't live in a country that ever had slavery, or traded with nations that did
mythology
Jan 2015
#163
oh for god's sake. it's so thick around here. thanks for the lecture, i'm so dumb i just didn't
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#177
Thanks. I've already been corrected multiple times, though "Benedict" is in the title and "Bernard"
NewDeal_Dem
Jan 2015
#178
My ancestor was a pirate who ran slaves from West Africa to Mobile through the British blockade
Recursion
Jan 2015
#167
I think this is about trying to tear down someone who is both a super talent and clean.
Renew Deal
Jan 2015
#183
He got into the acting trade through his parents, both of whom are actors.
knitter4democracy
Jan 2015
#215
Most of us have ancestors who engaged in reprehensible behavior. 6 generations back, who cares?
Shrike47
Jan 2015
#224
Perhaps you'd prefer to he give all his money away, forget he went to a posh school..
Adrahil
Jan 2015
#240
Everybody who has had any ancestor who did anything immoral and profited from it should live in
el_bryanto
Jan 2015
#241
In 'Amazing Grace', he played Will Pitt the Younger, and assisted MP William Wilburforce in abolishi
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#242