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In reply to the discussion: Forgive me if I roll my eyes at your precious outrage about torture. [View all]Cosmic Kitten
(3,498 posts)322. Why would you say " Study history, not Bill O'Reilly"
Comparing MLK, the WTO protest, and now torture
are each discreet social and historical events.
What worked for Ghandi, or MLK is not necessarily going
to change the current situation...
People need to think different and utilize the tools available.
The opposition is already several steps ahead.
So, not to be smug but what will protesting torture achieve?
We all know it's a crime
Only sociopaths embrace it.
There is unlikely to be any significant prosecutions.
We ARE already aware... so now what?
You think TPB will change because people march?
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Forgive me if I roll my eyes at your precious outrage about torture. [View all]
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
OP
I think we should just repeat any metaphors the OP used in a mocking and snarky fashion n/t
dogknob
Dec 2014
#5
My opinion, which I'm not the type to pretend is some kind of divine revelation...
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#10
Forgive me if I roll my eyes at your implication that Obama and Holder operate totally independently
merrily
Dec 2014
#113
And I'm familiar with all the rationalizations for why your inability to get what you want
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#154
Wow, that was a huge load of crap to pull straight out of your ear! Feel better?
merrily
Dec 2014
#155
You have; I am and it's not worth the candle. Clearly, your OP was not about honest discourse.
merrily
Dec 2014
#159
You're most welcome. My posts a couple of years ago were nothing like they are now.
merrily
Dec 2014
#142
"People who pretend the President can order prosecutions" is a bit of a keyboardful.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#182
Really? You polled Congress at the time about support for such measures?
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#216
Opposing such legislation at that time would have been politically crazy for a Democrat,
Vattel
Dec 2014
#222
So no one even tried to pass it, but you're certain it would have passed?
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#223
The torture victims appreciate your steadfast attention to seeking justice for them.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#258
Seeing everyone other than yourself as evil is not a recipe for human progress.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#7
well, actually, gore was beaten mercilessly from 1000 rove-controlled radio stations while
certainot
Dec 2014
#61
Agreed, but Gore also owes his defeat to his not standing up for the people who had their right to
Downtown Hound
Dec 2014
#292
Republicans will continue being treasonous thieves no matter what we say to them.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#74
I remain unconvinced that George W. Bush, Dickhead Cheney, the neo-con leadership,
Downtown Hound
Dec 2014
#32
And I'm unconvinced that most Democrats in Washington fit any of those categories.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#166
Agreed, but I guess I just never had any illusions about how far it went.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#14
Let me roll my eyes at the "realist" who even bothers to type such fantasy after any observation
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#94
He had to appoint an Attorney General who would be confirmed by the Senate.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#114
Don't let me interrupt your mansplaining. Please continue. You've been a huge hit so far.
merrily
Dec 2014
#169
And Bush's psychopathic tendencies were visible as early as the 2000 presidential debates
hatrack
Dec 2014
#102
Street protests are perfectly tailored to the issue of police violence.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#133
Bottom line is that you're pissed off that no one paid attention to your precious research.
SMC22307
Dec 2014
#125
In the run-up to Operation Shocking and Awful in the fall of 2002, I attended a
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#23
Anyone who earned his or her stripes back in the days of Tricky Dick and Agnew has my
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#324
How about you take your preachy high horse and shove it where the sun don't shine?
Downtown Hound
Dec 2014
#25
May not mean much in the cosmic scheme of things, but you're one of my heroes, fwiw - nt
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2014
#36
In summary, you think your personal feelings are the most important element
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#152
I was in the streets while Democratic leaders were cheer-leading for war.
ForgoTheConsequence
Dec 2014
#26
I never said they were trying to coronate her in 2008. Reading comprehension is your friend.
merrily
Dec 2014
#194
I disagree that everyone who is trying to coronate her now was trying so to do then. That is not my
merrily
Dec 2014
#201
Listen pal! I've done plenty of research in my mom's basement to disprove your "water is wet"
Guy Whitey Corngood
Dec 2014
#282
+1 That's why he's getting one liner replies instead of explanations, reasoning, links, etc.
merrily
Dec 2014
#306
I was just adding up the House and Senate Democratic votes listed on Wikipedia.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#211
What's your evidence for that assertion, that Dems feared for their physical safety?
Demit
Dec 2014
#226
I stressed the word "apparently." It appeared to me that they feared for their physical safety.
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#233
You cannot read. Period. Obama's term "THOSE folks"---THOSE---refers SPECIFICALLY TO "THOSE FOLKS"
WinkyDink
Dec 2014
#185
Okay your megamindship, then who was he calling patriots in his "we tortured some folks" speech?
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#196
I see no indication that he was trying to defend and soothe the cafeteria staff at the CIA
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#339
Oh yeah, how time do you spend together? How many deep conversations have you had? When did you last
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#345
You should read your own post, if you want to see judgmental. Not to mention the OP.
merrily
Dec 2014
#168
i'll add that a lot of college students outraged by torture and guantanamo may want to check
certainot
Dec 2014
#56
Well, we knew the extent of the torture was bad, but I dare say, not this freakin' bad!
Major Hogwash
Dec 2014
#67
Hell, I was against the US being involved in torture before being against the US
hedgehog
Dec 2014
#78
Troll has been here for a year gonna tell us about what to be outraged about...lol!!!
U4ikLefty
Dec 2014
#109
Hey, I think I have apologists bingo! I just needed a phony irate kiss up kick down tirade and
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#119
No, you kissed ass and rationalized for those with power and authority and spit blame at those who
TheKentuckian
Dec 2014
#338
curious how you feel about the way you worded your Op considering the responses...
AuntPatsy
Dec 2014
#127
Do you often just waltz into other people's conversations and randomly insult people?
True Blue Door
Dec 2014
#235
Saying the victims of torture are at fault for torture, is blaming the victim.
grahamhgreen
Dec 2014
#239
LOL! Funniest post I've read this week--and I told another poster yesterday that
merrily
Dec 2014
#164
ANSWERS? How about the OP offer HIS solutions? HUh? Where are THEY? Self-righteous blather.
WinkyDink
Dec 2014
#186
Exactly what was so "well-done" about the OP's post? it's verbose, and he thinks it is cleverly
WinkyDink
Dec 2014
#189
OFGS. Did you note the NON-reaction to MILLIONS marching against the 2003 Illegal Invasion? What
WinkyDink
Dec 2014
#184
If the poster was born last week, I might be willing to cut him some slack.
bullwinkle428
Dec 2014
#205
I love Al, so yeah it is intriguing. And I'm impressed you had something for us!
RiverLover
Dec 2014
#293
I guess we all can't be practically perfect in every way, like you. And Mary Poppins.
Arugula Latte
Dec 2014
#228
you really DO think that all of us to the left of Tojo WEREN'T outraged 2002-8, don't you?
MisterP
Dec 2014
#229
~~~True Blue Door, I gotta tell ya. You're skilz in replying respectfully to members needs work.
NYC_SKP
Dec 2014
#275
So, if "the key to war crimes prosecution is to first politically isolate highest targets...
MrMickeysMom
Dec 2014
#300