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In reply to the discussion: Forgive me if I roll my eyes at your precious outrage about torture. [View all]True Blue Door
(2,969 posts)Now our thoughts have to go into achieving the political environment where justice happens.
It has to happen in the real world where these prosecutions are not and never will be a high public priority.
Potential defendants have to be prioritized, and the highest priorities politically isolated.
Make compromises with people who were corrupt rather than evil, to keep their names out of it.
And once we get to a point where indictments are possible, that's when the real problems show up.
That's when corrupt or ideological bureaucrats working for the other side start sabotaging the prosecutions, losing evidence, deliberately breaking rules and protocol in order to create grounds for appeals, and in the higher-profile cases, witness tampering and intimidation (if not worse) by military and intelligence types.
It is already effectively impossible to convict a billionaire of anything because of the sheer scope of their legal representation, if not outright bribery of judges and juries. This would be an order of magnitude harder than that.
Get through that unholy gauntlet, and be prepared that not a single conviction stands because of the concentric layers of corrupt and ideological appellate courts, culminating in the absolute guarantee that five of nine current Supreme Court Justices would not under any circumstances allow any high-ranking Bush regime official to be convicted of anything, ever. Also add the fact that the principled liberal Justices would probably feel compelled to concede legitimate grounds for throwing out verdicts that had been created by GOP tampering with the cases through their moles in the DOJ.
That's not including the hellish nightmare that would be how the media would treat these cases. The closest thing to the level of lies and propaganda we would see is how they reacted to the Iraq War - they would repeat alternate universe narratives over, and over, and over until people believed them.
I'm game for all of it, but I'm game for the reality of the task - and judging by the comments, a lot of people here aren't ready for that at all, or are even offended at the idea of really doing this.