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4. i'm convinced people who do that are racists

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Some people want to de-racialize "Black Lives Matter" to "All Lives Matter" [View all] ellenrr Dec 2014 OP

Black lives matter pinboy3niner Dec 2014 #1

What this is all really about is getting some accountability for the police. Warpy Dec 2014 #2

You have a point there. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #6

deracializing it will be premature until race is no longer a factor.. RedCappedBandit Dec 2014 #49

"For now, trying to deracialize it is premature." woo me with science Dec 2014 #64

It means that it's premature, that's what it means. Warpy Dec 2014 #71

What are the political goals NOW? woo me with science Dec 2014 #73

I can't really speak for them Warpy Dec 2014 #75

They are demanding demilitarization of the police, woo me with science Dec 2014 #90

Reconvene the grand juries in Ferguson and Staten Island brush Dec 2014 #127

All Lives Matter 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #3

proportionally heaven05 Dec 2014 #124

I disagree to a certain degree 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #125

To stand firmly for what you believe in is principled heaven05 Dec 2014 #134

i'm convinced people who do that are racists JI7 Dec 2014 #4

No it's good intent misplaced daredtowork Dec 2014 #10

I'm not convinced that it's really a thing, TBH, from all I've seen. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #5

hmm - could be a #notyourshield in the making daredtowork Dec 2014 #15

And what's really sad is, in that regard.....(apologize for the off-topic semi-rant, but) AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #17

And what's really sad is the anti-GamerGate side wasn't entirely innocent either XemaSab Dec 2014 #47

Just take the free money dude. JTFrog Dec 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2014 #72

Clueless? XemaSab Dec 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2014 #78

+1 n/t R B Garr Dec 2014 #98

Speak for yourself. #LookInTheMirror. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #83

Did you really take a thread about police violence against black people and hijack it LeftyMom Dec 2014 #80

There was no hijacking. Sorry to burst your bubble. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author XemaSab Dec 2014 #93

No one brought up any other subject. Just your usual and unending campaign to distort Number23 Dec 2014 #100

Please explain "real thing" marym625 Dec 2014 #35

My apologies, but I thought I was clear...... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #84

wtf are you saying about trolls? Kali Dec 2014 #103

I'm not sure why you're having an issue understanding that.....no offense meant. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #105

Sorry, I still don't see what you mean is marym625 Dec 2014 #120

K&R! marym625 Dec 2014 #7

Just curious... SoapBox Dec 2014 #8

I can pull it in the morning marym625 Dec 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author marym625 Dec 2014 #40

Please see my reply in post 39 marym625 Dec 2014 #41

Is that 4x number per capita or total? madville Dec 2014 #31

Sorry, I have to run marym625 Dec 2014 #34

Just quickly marym625 Dec 2014 #39

that sounds the same as men who argue with #Women'sLivesMatter BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #9

Great analogy marym625 Dec 2014 #12

let it....but keep saying it! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #79

I hope so. n/t marym625 Dec 2014 #117

Pretty much what I was thinking, Blanche. There's some anti-choice group that co-opts .... Hekate Dec 2014 #13

yep. overly scrupulous. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2014 #81

That's what I was trying to say (but a lot more concise!) +1 daredtowork Dec 2014 #77

interesting Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #14

Well that sucks. Luminous Animal Dec 2014 #16

The racist cannot comprehend people of color except in relation to white people. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #18

Damn straight XemaSab Dec 2014 #115

And "normal" is often defined as what is favorable to the Capitalist ruling class. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #116

Will people still be using the term cis-gendered ten years from now? oberliner Dec 2014 #118

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #19

well said Marrah_G Dec 2014 #20

Black Males Are 21 Times More Likely To Be Shot By Police Than White Males uponit7771 Dec 2014 #21

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Which do you think is true? NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #97

I don't do twitter, so I really don't understand how hashtags work. stone space Dec 2014 #22

It's a pathetic thing to do. HappyMe Dec 2014 #23

Some people can't stand it when something's not about them alcibiades_mystery Dec 2014 #24

Chris Rock was right when he said black progress has mostly been because of whites... randome Dec 2014 #25

Reverance for all lives. 840high Dec 2014 #126

I don't see why both can't be used at the same time. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #26

And, in fact, they have been! AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #85

Rec. I agree completely. Bonobo Dec 2014 #27

Internet colonialism sucks. JaneyVee Dec 2014 #28

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Black Lives Matter. Half-Century Man Dec 2014 #29

Obviously all lives matter. And no one is saying it is ok if people who aren't Black are killed by ellenrr Dec 2014 #30

Do you feel like, marym625 Dec 2014 #37

oh man, try talking to real bigots!... ellenrr Dec 2014 #38

You are really awesome marym625 Dec 2014 #43

why thank you, Marym! I've never gotten such a nice comment on DU.:) ellenrr Dec 2014 #50

DU isn't perfect, but yeah, from my own personal experience..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #108

Isn't Staten Island known to have a lot of cops who live there? nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #42

Okay, so what are the goals of the protests, to address racism? woo me with science Dec 2014 #48

Yep, I don't agree with trying to change this solgan at this time...... socialist_n_TN Dec 2014 #32

you make a good point... two things are true ellenrr Dec 2014 #33

"somehow we have to make both points". Yep, that's it in a nutshell....... socialist_n_TN Dec 2014 #57

i've seen this used on signage by protestors nashville_brook Dec 2014 #36

What are the political goals of the protests? woo me with science Dec 2014 #44

you seem to be asking me the question? ellenrr Dec 2014 #52

I think they absolutely have a goal. They want this shit to STOP. woo me with science Dec 2014 #61

Of course "all lives matter" etherealtruth Dec 2014 #45

Yes, and how do we address that disproportionate brutality? woo me with science Dec 2014 #51

Change the way we police ....? etherealtruth Dec 2014 #53

I agree ellenrr Dec 2014 #54

The goal of political protests has to be political change. woo me with science Dec 2014 #59

The federal database idea is the only concrete suggestion in your list. randome Dec 2014 #63

Ending the federal programs that militarize police is a very concrete demand. woo me with science Dec 2014 #65

I have no argument with ending the program. randome Dec 2014 #66

cops caught illegally spying on protesters questionseverything Dec 2014 #99

well stated La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2014 #62

I wouldn't think it was a big deal Rolo Dec 2014 #46

"Black Lives Matter" handmade34 Dec 2014 #55

rec & kick MerryBlooms Dec 2014 #56

++++10000000 nt kelliekat44 Dec 2014 #58

Kelly Thomas's life mattered too. n/t Mojo Electro Dec 2014 #60

I'm kinda afraid to ask, it sounds like it should be somebody I know of, but who is Kelly Thomas? nt ellenrr Dec 2014 #68

Murdered by Fullerton, CA police in 2011. Karmadillo Dec 2014 #88

so terrible... ellenrr Dec 2014 #94

All lives matter. Orsino Dec 2014 #67

Most in America don't need to be reminded that white lives matter. OrwellwasRight Dec 2014 #86

Seems a large majority of people don't want to face up to America's racism problem Matariki Dec 2014 #70

"ALM" is good on its own--but if one says it in response to "BLM" *then* it's an effort MisterP Dec 2014 #74

All lives should have the same rights Omnith Dec 2014 #87

It's another angle to the "notallmen" meme..... boston bean Dec 2014 #89

Not really, though. Not by itself. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #107

both and...not either or noiretextatique Dec 2014 #91

Reminds me of Animal Farm. Hatchling Dec 2014 #92

I haven't seen any hashtag called #blacklivesmattermore gollygee Dec 2014 #95

No, no. Hatchling Dec 2014 #121

Aaaah OK gollygee Dec 2014 #123

Were not allowed to be angry or mourn. were not allowed to speak against injustice. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #102

"Changing it to "All Lives Matter" makes it meaningless." NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #104

I've used both on Twitter myself.... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #106

That's good to know. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #109

There are a few extremists out there, and they can be LOUD sometimes. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #110

Wow! WTF? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #111

Both statements are true bhikkhu Dec 2014 #112

Black lives matter. Euphoria Dec 2014 #113

Black lives matter. PowerToThePeople Dec 2014 #114

Black Lives MAtter loyalsister Dec 2014 #119

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"Animal Farm" Cleita Dec 2014 #129

FFS! marym625 Dec 2014 #130

+ 1000 loyalsister Dec 2014 #131

Have to give MIRT credit marym625 Dec 2014 #132

Here you go marym625 Dec 2014 #133