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76. you hit on the answer right there - vote-by-mail
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:57 PM
Dec 2014

Didn't see it in the poll, but it's the answer, really.

Oregon has vote by mail. Guess what our turnout rates were for the midterm elections. Go on, guess. Or google it, i'll wait.

...

70%

Problem solved. Get vote-by-mail for the whole country, and watch the turn-out rise by 20 points for the mid-term elections.

It's not that people don't want to vote, it's that they don't have time to vote. Look at some of those lines at the polling places, especially those where the GOP-dominated state leg decided that the major metropolitan areas deserve about 1/3 the voting apparatus of the rural counties. You want to vote there, you set aside half a day, most of which is spent standing in line. Outside. In November. On a Tuesday.

Which brings me to my next point. People work, many at jobs where they don't get time off for voting. People often feel like they have better things to do than stand around waiting for an opportunity to cast a vote which may never happen in which case they have to cast a provisional ballot which probably won't get counted for candidates who all-to-often fail to inspire the slightest bit of interest. And that last bit is key, too: important as that local bond measure may be, you can't count on it to generate a lot of turnout. That takes high-quality candidates.

OR vote-by-mail. You want turnout? Go with that, no need to punish people for not doing something expensive, annoying, and difficult.

Know what else you get with vote-by-mail? An informed electorate. By sending out ballots and election information booklets describing candidates and ballot measures, you ensure that people have time to read about what they're voting for before they mark the page. People get to take their time, sit down, and think it over, without being rushed to get out of the tiny booth to make room for the next citizen. Nice, huh?

Another thing you get: instant paper trail. People differ on how reliable paper-free touch screen voting is, but vote-by-mail ends the debate because it's all on paper. No more wondering if the overpriced touch screen machine mis-read your vote by accident or by design, no more fretting over how to do a recount. With vote-by-mail you can shift your suspicion upstairs to the central tabulators where it belongs.

Anyway, that's my take: establish vote-by-mail nationwide, and watch the problem of midterm turnout evaporate.

No, but Election Day should be a national holiday. Edited to add... Adsos Letter Dec 2014 #1
Well, naturally Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #3
Option B would work Warpy Dec 2014 #2
I agree with automatic registration, but I'm not a fan of making it mandatory. arcane1 Dec 2014 #4
Not casting a ballot IS voting Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #5
So let their choices be PADemD Dec 2014 #42
Not voting IS none of the above. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #49
Disagree treestar Dec 2014 #54
They should care because their legitimacy depends on the consent of the public Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #63
Still an excuse treestar Dec 2014 #66
Constitution doesn't say "we the voters..." Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #67
Do you have a different flavor ice cream? lpbk2713 Dec 2014 #6
My SO has some Ben & Jerrys in the freezer Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #12
For Dems yes Skink Dec 2014 #7
I'm a firm believer in mandatory voting, but in addition.... Rod Beauvex Dec 2014 #8
Query: Do you mean STV? Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #14
Not sure. Rod Beauvex Dec 2014 #17
Sorry Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #25
Ah. OK. Rod Beauvex Dec 2014 #36
There is a none of the above option tabbycat31 Dec 2014 #61
YES! Derek V Dec 2014 #9
Voting is a lot more important than the other mandatory responsibilities we have. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #10
Why vote when media polls do it all for us anyway? Kablooie Dec 2014 #45
Yes,with a compelling fine for noncompliance.Start at $250.00 easychoice Dec 2014 #11
I didn't want to go that high Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #13
Obviously there would be mitigation...But easychoice Dec 2014 #40
No, it would be a violation of the First Amendment. former9thward Dec 2014 #15
I think that's legally questionable Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #20
I would then refer you to the Ninth Kennah Dec 2014 #35
It also covers free speech. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #70
No. Pay People to Vote AndyTiedye Dec 2014 #16
Voter ID Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #32
No mandatory voting. branford Dec 2014 #18
I honestly can't see a problem with the First Amendment Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #21
It's primarily a violation of free speech, not the right to assemble, among other problems. branford Dec 2014 #23
Thanks for teh links Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #30
I've never had "Minter Wonderland," but it sounds delicious. branford Dec 2014 #33
the Trader Joes Chocolate Mint Ice Cream olddots Dec 2014 #19
Try the Ben & Jerrys Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #22
We'd have a lot of Mickey Mouse write ins and a lot of people simply liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #24
Sure, that's expected Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #27
We already live in a police state. We don't need to make it worse. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #29
No but, Voting Day should be a National Holiday and Civic Duty should be taught in schools. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2014 #26
Agreed on both Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #28
teaching and then encouraging rather than punishing? Nah. That's too radical. liberal_at_heart Dec 2014 #31
No, but I believe election day should be a national holiday. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2014 #34
Vote by Mail ONLY! Works in the PNW very well. 70% turnout mid-terms. nt ErikJ Dec 2014 #37
The United States is the only civilized country where you have to register to vote.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #38
Compulsory voting is the antithesis of democracy. DRoseDARs Dec 2014 #39
Write-in a candidate if you like Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #47
My option is E. Jenoch Dec 2014 #41
No but purple fingers would be a wonderful addition. Kablooie Dec 2014 #43
Only if 'None' is on ballot and elections monitored by UN on point Dec 2014 #44
Extend early voting periods, maybe make it the entire month before the election. Kurska Dec 2014 #46
No need to make it manditory. Just let people vote. (nt) stone space Dec 2014 #48
Mandatory insurance, mandatory voting... Fumesucker Dec 2014 #50
Yes, I think the voters are pissed off enough already. Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #71
NO, only if they bring back literacy tests, only this time for Real . n/t orpupilofnature57 Dec 2014 #51
“If voting made any difference jambo101 Dec 2014 #52
Yes treestar Dec 2014 #53
Only if education is required too. Jamastiene Dec 2014 #55
I agree with all but forcing people to vote. I think it will bring in a lot of people who are RKP5637 Dec 2014 #56
No to mandatory voting, but yes to vote by mail davidpdx Dec 2014 #57
Should happiness also be mandatory? (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #58
The Beatings will continue until morale improves . . . nt branford Dec 2014 #62
A study showed, America has contempt for the " Unhappy " which orpupilofnature57 Dec 2014 #80
a combination of the above tabbycat31 Dec 2014 #59
Absolutely not! rock Dec 2014 #60
Other: mandate employers provide sufficient paid time for voting. MH1 Dec 2014 #64
No. But, adding a None of the Above option might help turnout. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #65
Tool of dictators to pretend legitimacy One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #68
No, and I believe the First Amendment protects the right not to vote Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #69
Mandatory voting is an insipid concept. Throd Dec 2014 #72
Absolutely not. Vinca Dec 2014 #73
No this is a free country and people should be allowed to make a statement in not showing up. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74
The OP doesn't understand the functions of the states vs the federal gov. CK_John Dec 2014 #75
you hit on the answer right there - vote-by-mail 0rganism Dec 2014 #76
Only if, in EVERY race, the voters are given an option of Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #77
Vote by mail, sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #78
The wingnuts would go ape! Turbineguy Dec 2014 #79
A day without conservative poutrage is a day without cheer Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #82
Rather than a fine, maybe an extra $1000 deduction on income tax? dmosh42 Dec 2014 #81
I think $1k is a little too much Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #83
Yes, the premise is what US citizens usually respond to. dmosh42 Dec 2014 #84
No (nt) bigwillq Dec 2014 #85
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