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88. Chicken and egg, what comes first ?

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 04:06 PM

Nov 2014

We can all debate and disagree on what comes first, but being inspired to vote (chicken) and actually voting (egg) are BOTH important and to a large degree independent of each other.

Was I completely thrilled about the Democrats in 1980 when I was 21 years old ? No. They all seemed "old" to me and out of touch with my generation. Nevertheless, I voted.

I'm NOT trying to cast aspersions or guilt upon anyone. Just, please, vote.

eta: The ONLY time I've been really inspired, was in 2008 and 2012 with President Barack Obama. Otherwise, it's been a duty and a chore to vote. I missed 1996 because of work interfering, but thank god Clinton still won.

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For Those Complaining about the Baby Boomer Vote: [View all] MineralMan Nov 2014 OP

I'm in my early fifties, and I've voted in every election except the last midterm (2012) MANative Nov 2014 #1

It bothers me, too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #2

Totally get you. MANative Nov 2014 #4

Please stop the guilt yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #16

Thank you. Your kind words mean a lot. MANative Nov 2014 #23

My pleasure! We are all in this crazy World together! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #29

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #71

I'm a Baby Boomer, too, and I always vote. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2014 #3

Some people claim that it doesn't matter who wins. MineralMan Nov 2014 #7

How do you know ones that didn't vote are the ones complaining? JonLP24 Nov 2014 #5

You know, I spend the two months before every election MineralMan Nov 2014 #8

Lack of media hype and press JonLP24 Nov 2014 #10

The election happens. Everyone knows there's an election. MineralMan Nov 2014 #11

It is not the same JonLP24 Nov 2014 #12

Ennui. Boredom. Lack of Forethought. MineralMan Nov 2014 #13

I didn't say they were valid. JonLP24 Nov 2014 #15

As I said in a related thread, there's no good reason to not vote. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #6

Exactly. If Millennials make up only 12% of the overall turnout, MineralMan Nov 2014 #9

So-and-so crossed the aisle again BarackTheVote Nov 2014 #55

A lot (not all) "dream" about some kind of "violent rebellion" somebody else will... Amonester Nov 2014 #14

There's not going to be any rebellion. MineralMan Nov 2014 #17

And a lot of them dreamers know that, so they waste hours of their time playing Amonester Nov 2014 #21

Vote for what? jeff47 Nov 2014 #18

Why is it always about "their" problems and never about Amonester Nov 2014 #19

By voting for what? jeff47 Nov 2014 #20

I'll give you that, while rejecting your false accusations all at once. Amonester Nov 2014 #22

You're confusing action with inaction. jeff47 Nov 2014 #24

They're confusing unrealistic dreams with reality. Amonester Nov 2014 #25

Not at all. Take a look at what the Republicans did. jeff47 Nov 2014 #67

So these youngest non-voters decided to leave the fight (for all that list) definitely Amonester Nov 2014 #89

What gains? jeff47 Nov 2014 #90

I was not referring to you in particular, nor to your State. Amonester Nov 2014 #91

If they actually support LGBT equality they would vote, taking a lesson from LGBT voters who Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #30

Your argument has the massive hole jeff47 Nov 2014 #64

You won't get an answer Scootaloo Nov 2014 #104

Nonsense. MineralMan Nov 2014 #36

We're talking about why they didn't turn out in 2014. jeff47 Nov 2014 #70

Also JonLP24 Nov 2014 #26

This is a very good graphic Kalidurga Nov 2014 #33

This is an aexcellent graphic. F4lconF16 Nov 2014 #102

Hard to take that time off from work, when every job sees you as disposable Scootaloo Nov 2014 #105

Perhaps these young adults should just quit waiting for their Skidmore Nov 2014 #66

Thanks for demonstrating my point so clearly. jeff47 Nov 2014 #77

+100 Scootaloo Nov 2014 #106

As a Millennial, THANK YOU! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #73

I agree BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #78

Voted in every Faux pas Nov 2014 #27

This baby boomer votes straight Democratic in every election and every primary. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2014 #28

That's funny... fredamae Nov 2014 #31

Boomers come in all political colors. MineralMan Nov 2014 #32

It's not the voters; it's the candidates Android3.14 Nov 2014 #34

You don't have leaders? Sure you do. MineralMan Nov 2014 #42

I'm not attacking you, MM Android3.14 Nov 2014 #46

That's three items. I don't like them either. MineralMan Nov 2014 #52

Again, you miss my point. Android3.14 Nov 2014 #72

No, it's the voters. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #69

Really? You are going to hold them personally responsible? Android3.14 Nov 2014 #76

Yup, I'm done with being understanding of intentional stupidity. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #79

And that, Luke, is why you fail Android3.14 Nov 2014 #96

Young people don't vote, never have, maybe never will. What is the big deal? A Simple Game Nov 2014 #35

If they don't vote, they can't complain, then. MineralMan Nov 2014 #38

Wait a minute, I never said I didn't vote nor did I say you shouldn't vote. A Simple Game Nov 2014 #68

12% turnout of people 30 and younger. Rex Nov 2014 #37

Not exactly. That demo made up 12% of the vote. MineralMan Nov 2014 #40

My mistake, I thought that was overall turnout. Rex Nov 2014 #43

Yes. I'll have to go look at turnout percentages. MineralMan Nov 2014 #47

exactly heaven05 Nov 2014 #39

Thank you for voting! MineralMan Nov 2014 #60

Boomers tend to believe the system is much the same as it was in 1961. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #41

Not this Boomer. MineralMan Nov 2014 #44

Try it this way: GliderGuider Nov 2014 #48

No, I'm not trying that, thanks. MineralMan Nov 2014 #53

The difference is that you are looking at the results obtained within the system GliderGuider Nov 2014 #57

The system exists. It's not going away. MineralMan Nov 2014 #58

Of course it's not going away. GliderGuider Nov 2014 #61

Silliness is what you're selling. I'm not in a giggling mood MineralMan Nov 2014 #63

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? nt BootinUp Nov 2014 #45

Neither - the corporations came first. nt GliderGuider Nov 2014 #50

So you refuse to pay taxes? If not, you do in fact participate in that system, you just refuse to Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #51

You will notice, I said "if I can avoid it" GliderGuider Nov 2014 #54

There's more to it than that also, the 18 - 29 year old vote Guaguacoa Nov 2014 #49

I'm beginning to think Gen X JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #56

As they get older, they get more experince, and tend to get wiser. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #100

I'm a Pre-boomer and I always vote. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #59

I've never encountered a politician with whom I agree 100%. MineralMan Nov 2014 #62

Neither have I and I never expect to. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2014 #65

I vote for outcomes. I have my own principles MineralMan Nov 2014 #81

Another Boomer who has voted straight Dem all my life. Waiting For Everyman Nov 2014 #74

Millenial gen begins in 1982 BlindTiresias Nov 2014 #75

It's not my age bracket. Someone reported the under 30 vote MineralMan Nov 2014 #80

I'm a baby boomer and ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #82

Of course you are excused. Recover and be well. MineralMan Nov 2014 #83

Thank you... ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #92

I understand. I had to recover from viral encephalitis MineralMan Nov 2014 #94

Wow - that's tough. ohheckyeah Nov 2014 #97

I recovered. I'm betting you do too. MineralMan Nov 2014 #98

That's some bad shit. Blue_In_AK Nov 2014 #101

I'm a boomer and I vote. Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2014 #84

We don't always prevail. But every election is a temporary MineralMan Nov 2014 #86

I'm a boomer and I always vote badtoworse Nov 2014 #85

And I thank you for that. Truly. MineralMan Nov 2014 #87

Chicken and egg, what comes first ? steve2470 Nov 2014 #88

For me, the inspiration has always come MineralMan Nov 2014 #93

sincerely, that's really great MM steve2470 Nov 2014 #95

Here's a clue ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #99

Vote for what the party offers you, and stay silent at all other times Scootaloo Nov 2014 #103