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Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
19. Thank you, Madhound! 70 million curies, not over 70 years, but in weeks!
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 06:16 AM
Apr 2012

Anyone who could minimize such a catastrophe--even if it were limited to Japan--is a first class jerk.

One weather cycle.

All over the northern hemisphere.

In weeks.

Fire has been the danger to the rest of us all along--fire, of course, which spews deadly radiation into the atmosphere, and hydrogen or any other kind of explosion. The Japanese are the most at risk, even without fires and explosions. To minimize their danger from the fuel rods in Reactor 4 and nearby fuel rods, and from the initial meltdowns, is extremely xenophobic if not racist. To minimize what fires (or explosions) will do to the northern hemisphere is mindbogglingly stupid and typical of the "clever" profiteers of the nuclear industry.

This is madness. We are being led by madmen to the end of most life on earth--in an era in which we could have been celebrating peace and prosperity for all; in an era of the most astonishing scientific advances in history, in every field from astronomy to genetics, from the cosmos to the quark; in the first era in human history in which we have all seen the earth from the moon, and, for the first time in human history, can see with our own eyes that there are no borders on earth, and that we are "one people" all over the earth.

It is an era in which infinite, free energy is within our grasp; an era in which a vast extension of human life, and even immortality, is within our grasp; an era in which contact with other civilizations in our galaxy has become probable, in which we have realized that life is likely to have developed elsewhere, in many places, among the hundreds of millions of galaxies that we now realize are there; it is an era in which we have landed exploration machines on Mars and sent them out of the Solar System. It is an era of staggeringly powerful computer and communications technology. And it is an era in which innovators, from "first world" organic farmers to "third world" traditional and Indigenous farmers and other lovers of the plant world and respecters of its diversity and resilience, are creating sustainable agriculture on their own, giving us all the opportunity to reform the world food supply.

It is a wondrous era--that could all come to a swift and horrible end, by our own hands!

Yet our leaders, at least here in the U.S., refuse to acknowledge the catastrophic danger of nuclear power and that other danger--global warming (not only catastrophic warming--melting ice caps, extreme weather, flooding of islands and coasts--but also the catastrophic impacts on other, already severely stressed and depleted species and on the entire ecology of the planet).

If the human race survives to write a history of this era--or if someone else writes it--what they will be struck by is our unbelievable STUPIDITY resulting from the "corporatization" of our governments. We did this to ourselves--we committed suicide--for the profit of the few!

Whoa. tabasco Apr 2012 #1
.... DeSwiss Apr 2012 #2
Mankind makes a giant evolutionary leap! freshwest Apr 2012 #4
....backwards. DeSwiss Apr 2012 #72
...just like eating two bananas per day, right? PCIntern Apr 2012 #3
I do. It was disgusting. nt Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #5
Yes, it goes good with shredded wheat and milk. freshwest Apr 2012 #6
I fought with a bunch of them Aerows Apr 2012 #17
They are still shilling that crap Generic Other Apr 2012 #25
I finally went for the ignore function madokie Apr 2012 #41
Yes, I've followed Skinner's advice to make my DU experience *not* suck. freshwest Apr 2012 #73
Nuclear power is fine, but we need to move forward to fusion snooper2 Apr 2012 #99
It looks like kidneys and a spine in that graphic Aerows Apr 2012 #101
They haven't gone anywhere... PearliePoo2 Apr 2012 #26
Since you area dentist nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #104
To quote Richard Benjamin from Saturday Night Live's "The Pepsi Sydrome"... roamer65 Apr 2012 #7
I just feel so much despair when I read updates on Fukushima riderinthestorm Apr 2012 #8
Know how you feel... and can't help but wonder about that Mayan Calendar... BeHereNow Apr 2012 #78
A serious problem obscured by lurid exaggeration caraher Apr 2012 #9
But...but...the radioactive wave crossed the Pacific and wiped out all life on the west coast! jeff47 Apr 2012 #10
Where do you live, jeff47? nt Peace Patriot Apr 2012 #13
Relevance? jeff47 Apr 2012 #23
I hear people East of the Mississippi can multiple and subtract pretty well snooper2 Apr 2012 #100
Where do you live, caraher? nt Peace Patriot Apr 2012 #12
Peace, I suspect that you, like me and mine live on the west coast, California in particular.. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #15
If the OP is claiming the fate of the world is at stake, it doesn't matter NickB79 Apr 2012 #35
One thing you're overlooking MadHound Apr 2012 #14
Thank you, Madhound! 70 million curies, not over 70 years, but in weeks! Peace Patriot Apr 2012 #19
Fire only has a 10% uptake for fission products. Sirveri Apr 2012 #21
Please, stop, you're embarassing yourself MadHound Apr 2012 #42
You are a nuclear scientist! snooper2 Apr 2012 #102
Where do you live, Sirveri? Peace Patriot Apr 2012 #65
I live on the west coast. Sirveri Apr 2012 #66
The oceans have swallowed up entire reactors, not to mention several nucelar weapons AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #85
you ever put a drop of purple dye snooper2 Apr 2012 #103
delusional marshall gaines Apr 2012 #69
yes!!!!!!!!!!!! marshall gaines Apr 2012 #68
Very eloquently put, Peace Patriot LongTomH Apr 2012 #76
Plus, they are burning the radiation waste in Japan. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #91
Wow davidthegnome Apr 2012 #33
thank you marshall gaines Apr 2012 #52
Not sure where you got your numbers from... Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #58
Yeah, that's right MadHound Apr 2012 #60
I'm referring to injected doses Dead_Parrot Apr 2012 #61
Thanks for putting it so simply and clearly - I wasn't really aware how bad this could get. nt bananas Apr 2012 #84
Could it not lead to mass starvation? Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #16
Can't happen jeff47 Apr 2012 #24
Yep, laced with some ominous numbers to pump up the hyperbole. progressoid Apr 2012 #32
Of course, End Of The World chervilant Apr 2012 #38
+1000 nt LiberalEsto Apr 2012 #40
+ another 1000 Duppers Apr 2012 #62
Happy Happy Joy Joy: Missouri Seeks to Become Global Producer of Small Nuclear Reactors dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #94
Unremarkable blip, really, chervilant Apr 2012 #96
maybe it takes that rhetoric to get idiots to do something fascisthunter Apr 2012 #55
Like what? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #87
oh.. I don't know... listen to others saying things might be worse than what is being reported fascisthunter Apr 2012 #90
Nukes are going to lose long term anyway. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #92
I Know.... I just wanted to answer your question. fascisthunter Apr 2012 #95
You missed what I posted up thread: dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #98
Less than half doesn't sound very viable to me. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #105
We are agreeing, actually. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #106
It could cause a significant rise in cancer rates obxhead Apr 2012 #44
It is clear to me that you don't know the correct protocol..... DeSwiss Apr 2012 #48
who marshall gaines Apr 2012 #50
HOLY SHIT a rational post. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #86
re: Fate of Japan and the Whole World Depends on No. 4 Reactor allan01 Apr 2012 #11
excellent marshall gaines Apr 2012 #67
K&R for a very informative thread. Permanut Apr 2012 #18
But but but malaise Apr 2012 #20
Scary stuff. n/t DLevine Apr 2012 #22
Relax, everybody, they're just venting a little steam. bvar22 Apr 2012 #27
+1000 Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #39
Well by gawd madokie Apr 2012 #51
hole marshall gaines Apr 2012 #53
eh? SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #88
Eggacxtly! DeSwiss Apr 2012 #70
Thanks, I miss my rock that I was living under...and the huge pile of sand where I bury my head. BeHereNow Apr 2012 #79
I predict that at least one person here dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #93
And you are correct. bvar22 Apr 2012 #97
There's no manual written for TEPCO on how to proceed. They are "winging" it. PearliePoo2 Apr 2012 #28
Good Grief! The world has been ignoring this and will pay big time flamingdem Apr 2012 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #30
De Nada..... DeSwiss Apr 2012 #71
German TV video regarding #4 flamingdem Apr 2012 #31
Well that's okay then..we know another earthquake in that region is highly unlikely... truebrit71 Apr 2012 #34
I agree, this is and always has been flamingdem Apr 2012 #36
Anyone concerned by the tons of spent fuel rods stored around the USofA? rhett o rick Apr 2012 #37
The benefit of nuke power is lost on me when this many people will be affected AllyCat Apr 2012 #43
Fukushima? sulphurdunn Apr 2012 #45
fuck... WillyT Apr 2012 #46
k&r... spanone Apr 2012 #47
mess marshall gaines Apr 2012 #49
where are the Big Mouth pro-Nuke Posters? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #54
Probably laughing at the over the top title. Zax2me Apr 2012 #56
there you are! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #57
Fukushima is that japanese for wormwood? leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #59
Oh, this is obviously not true. It would be all over the news if it was true. Besides, what's a Safetykitten Apr 2012 #63
Kick Duppers Apr 2012 #64
kick and rec.. AsahinaKimi Apr 2012 #74
This story may be starting to 'go viral' LongTomH Apr 2012 #75
... Mnemosyne Apr 2012 #77
k&r n/t RainDog Apr 2012 #80
If the futaba fault moves shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #81
I'm starting to think all the shouting about Iran is just a distraction from the REAL threat. BeHereNow Apr 2012 #82
Another motivation to move south ErikJ Apr 2012 #83
"Oh ye who place your faith in fire... unionworks Apr 2012 #89
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