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Apocalypse Now: Seriously, It Is Time for a Major Rethink About Liberal and Progressive Politics [View all] xchrom Oct 2014 OP

Just finished reading the entire article...whoa...although snappyturtle Oct 2014 #1

It seems we have to start all over again like before we even had Unions classykaren Oct 2014 #20

we are going to have to go through the labor movement all over again in this country. nt antigop Oct 2014 #54

That is because the Industrial Unions were broken by business, governement, and business unions, jtuck004 Oct 2014 #56

I am a proud Union member who belongs to a craft union QuestionAlways Oct 2014 #77

That's what Mother Jones a Matles, among others, called them. And just because you have yours, jtuck004 Oct 2014 #82

Big K&R! I love his takeaway - that we need to start locally to begin to effect change nt riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #2

IMO his takeaway was local organizing in Not enough by itself. Tommymac Oct 2014 #67

Depressing but accurate read. djean111 Oct 2014 #3

Great call for action RiverLover Oct 2014 #4

the nice thing about being (semi) homeless and broke redruddyred Oct 2014 #8

I totally agree with you RiverLover why oh why did they ever do away with the real Fair and Balanced classykaren Oct 2014 #22

You are correct. No FOX wasn't mentioned. I find when stating the propaganda power of appalachiablue Oct 2014 #69

Correction-conservative corporate media and Fox were in the full article on Alternet. appalachiablue Oct 2014 #88

Accurate - On Point cantbeserious Oct 2014 #5

Local control, self-sufficiency Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #6

Write! ReRe Oct 2014 #15

You are correct. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #26

There you go! ReRe Oct 2014 #31

Well, it's workers comp. so the answer is, Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #32

Some of this is happening. At least around here, I've seen a real push not only for food from the Chathamization Oct 2014 #33

Those are all great ideas. Le Taz Hot Oct 2014 #34

I look forward to reading it when you finish. If you're interested, here's our sustainability plan Chathamization Oct 2014 #44

welcome to the Age of KaliYuga vlyons Oct 2014 #7

Back to basics. democrank Oct 2014 #9

You can say that again. n/t ReRe Oct 2014 #17

He had me until the solutions - TBF Oct 2014 #10

Maybe the solutions were written for a real world? brooklynite Oct 2014 #19

Oh yes it can be replaced - TBF Oct 2014 #25

Please enlighten us... brooklynite Oct 2014 #28

Money DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #53

Without currency, people end up on subsistence-only living muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #58

I don't think that is true - TBF Oct 2014 #59

How do you expect to support retired people? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #62

Scare tactics of capitalism - TBF Oct 2014 #68

Socialism, communism and feudalism have all used money too muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #70

Money is just a representation of resources. If you allocate more equal amounts of money tokens CJCRANE Oct 2014 #71

But that's not happening - TBF Oct 2014 #73

Abandoning the status quo is a frightening prospect. ronnie624 Oct 2014 #99

OCCUPY! snooper2 Oct 2014 #92

Well that wouldn't be my approach TBF Oct 2014 #93

You Seem to be Unable to Describe What You Want to Build in Its Place AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #80

"Start a co-op" only works if it's not TBF Oct 2014 #85

Yes, Right in the Middle of a Capitalist System AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #97

Look no further than the authoritarian freaks who have taken control of the Democratic Party whereisjustice Oct 2014 #11

+10000000000 ReRe Oct 2014 #18

... bigwillq Oct 2014 #41

Our enemy is not Conservatives. It is Rahm Emanual, the Third Way, etc.. SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2014 #72

No kidding. nt TBF Oct 2014 #74

Right on. hifiguy Oct 2014 #91

Great post, the canonical issues making it difficult to distinquish our two parties. And as whereisjustice Oct 2014 #95

K&R!!! +1,000,000,000!!! This is what I have been talking about for the last 3 years! Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #12

Bingo! Great post. RiverLover Oct 2014 #13

Great post as well! The question that I have is how do we get enough people motivated to Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #38

This will only suppress Dem GOTV efforts. L0oniX Oct 2014 #14

"The Left is too content just to rent space in the attic from the Democrats. adirondacker Oct 2014 #21

Corporate control is the peoples worst enemy. L0oniX Oct 2014 #23

it's literally called the "Veal Pen" strategy: anyone who *wants* anything beyond electioneering MisterP Oct 2014 #47

Thanks. That would explain the early slaughter of many a good candidate. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #48

and they broadcast how they're going to do it: MisterP Oct 2014 #49

I recall Lieberman claiming that Howard Dean would cause a depression during the 2004 debates. adirondacker Oct 2014 #51

"Americans are very pessimistic" LiberalElite Oct 2014 #16

Voting Republican is a suicidal tendency. L0oniX Oct 2014 #24

I sure hope Americans don't listen to NBC's propaganda... ReRe Oct 2014 #29

Support Bernie Sanders for President TheNutcracker Oct 2014 #27

If people feel pessimistic about their children's future tularetom Oct 2014 #30

A long, but absolutely wonderful article. loudsue Oct 2014 #35

Rec! progressoid Oct 2014 #36

A similar movement is "Dark Optimism". CJCRANE Oct 2014 #37

Truth. k&r polichick Oct 2014 #39

Sadly there's a lot of truth in this - and not only in America LeftishBrit Oct 2014 #40

Kicking So I Can Come Back And Read Later... n/t ChiciB1 Oct 2014 #42

Our nation is collectively insane truebluegreen Oct 2014 #43

I So Agree With The Thrust Of This Article colsohlibgal Oct 2014 #45

Good article but I don't think it emphasized enough how we must rhett o rick Oct 2014 #46

Interesting Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #50

Current voters have been described as unhappy but confused on what to do. Maineman Oct 2014 #52

What makes me fearful is the longer this tyranny continues the tighter the rubber band gets and there geretogo Oct 2014 #55

Maybe other people are afraid of the same thing RiverLover Oct 2014 #57

Yeah, it's time we all went populist and began insisting on policies and spending that PatrickforO Oct 2014 #60

Kick - so I can find this again later. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #61

The elections are fixed Pharaoh Oct 2014 #63

I wish you were wrong. Alas, you are not. All else aside, those damn electronic machines are silvershadow Oct 2014 #81

And yet, no candidate, elected official or Party leader has claimed that... brooklynite Oct 2014 #84

Powerful. The sad, hard truth and necessary solution. The groups named are a good start toward it. ancianita Oct 2014 #64

We need a complete restructuring humbled_opinion Oct 2014 #65

K & R with thanks. ancianita Oct 2014 #66

Liberals need to unite, heavily organize, and attract brilliant leaders AZ Progressive Oct 2014 #75

You forgot " educate " . They have taken civics out of our public schools . The Corporatists push geretogo Oct 2014 #89

Everything's going according to plan. And no real "Opposition Party" to stop it. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #76

Or any type of opposition really - TBF Oct 2014 #86

A note on the crisis of liberalism vlakitti Oct 2014 #78

K&R liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #79

Nothing yellowwoodII Oct 2014 #83

We'll stop losing LWolf Oct 2014 #87

And when "real liberals" lose in red States, that means you should run MORE liberal candidates.... brooklynite Oct 2014 #90

Solution: BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #94

Foreign Income Taxes are Credited AndyTiedye Oct 2014 #96

Yet everybody keeps playing. hunter Oct 2014 #98