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In reply to the discussion: Apocalypse Now: Seriously, It Is Time for a Major Rethink About Liberal and Progressive Politics [View all]snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)1. Just finished reading the entire article...whoa...although
depressing I do think it accurately states our present condition.
last paragraph:
In that light, I have started describing myself as a pragmatic/apocalyptic, which means there are huge problems on the horizon, likely severe crises ahead, and there is at present no light at the end of the tunnel. So let's stop fantasizing about all the ways our world should be when there isn't the remotest chance of those ideas coming to fruition any time soon, if ever. Let's focus on what can be done, on building local and regional strength, on developing thousands of new organizers and less think tankers, and bringing people together in ways they feel supported, as opposed to on their own, with no one at their backs.
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....something to think about before voting, imho
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xchrom
Oct 2014
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we are going to have to go through the labor movement all over again in this country. nt
antigop
Oct 2014
#54
That is because the Industrial Unions were broken by business, governement, and business unions,
jtuck004
Oct 2014
#56
That's what Mother Jones a Matles, among others, called them. And just because you have yours,
jtuck004
Oct 2014
#82
Big K&R! I love his takeaway - that we need to start locally to begin to effect change nt
riderinthestorm
Oct 2014
#2
I totally agree with you RiverLover why oh why did they ever do away with the real Fair and Balanced
classykaren
Oct 2014
#22
You are correct. No FOX wasn't mentioned. I find when stating the propaganda power of
appalachiablue
Oct 2014
#69
Correction-conservative corporate media and Fox were in the full article on Alternet.
appalachiablue
Oct 2014
#88
Some of this is happening. At least around here, I've seen a real push not only for food from the
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#33
I look forward to reading it when you finish. If you're interested, here's our sustainability plan
Chathamization
Oct 2014
#44
Money is just a representation of resources. If you allocate more equal amounts of money tokens
CJCRANE
Oct 2014
#71
Look no further than the authoritarian freaks who have taken control of the Democratic Party
whereisjustice
Oct 2014
#11
Our enemy is not Conservatives. It is Rahm Emanual, the Third Way, etc..
SomeGuyInEagan
Oct 2014
#72
Great post, the canonical issues making it difficult to distinquish our two parties. And as
whereisjustice
Oct 2014
#95
K&R!!! +1,000,000,000!!! This is what I have been talking about for the last 3 years!
Dustlawyer
Oct 2014
#12
Great post as well! The question that I have is how do we get enough people motivated to
Dustlawyer
Oct 2014
#38
"The Left is too content just to rent space in the attic from the Democrats.
adirondacker
Oct 2014
#21
it's literally called the "Veal Pen" strategy: anyone who *wants* anything beyond electioneering
MisterP
Oct 2014
#47
Thanks. That would explain the early slaughter of many a good candidate. nt
adirondacker
Oct 2014
#48
I recall Lieberman claiming that Howard Dean would cause a depression during the 2004 debates.
adirondacker
Oct 2014
#51
What makes me fearful is the longer this tyranny continues the tighter the rubber band gets and there
geretogo
Oct 2014
#55
Yeah, it's time we all went populist and began insisting on policies and spending that
PatrickforO
Oct 2014
#60
I wish you were wrong. Alas, you are not. All else aside, those damn electronic machines are
silvershadow
Oct 2014
#81
And yet, no candidate, elected official or Party leader has claimed that...
brooklynite
Oct 2014
#84
Powerful. The sad, hard truth and necessary solution. The groups named are a good start toward it.
ancianita
Oct 2014
#64
You forgot " educate " . They have taken civics out of our public schools . The Corporatists push
geretogo
Oct 2014
#89
Everything's going according to plan. And no real "Opposition Party" to stop it.
blkmusclmachine
Oct 2014
#76
And when "real liberals" lose in red States, that means you should run MORE liberal candidates....
brooklynite
Oct 2014
#90