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In reply to the discussion: Leaked autopsy report supports Darren Wilson’s account of Michael Brown shooting [View all]Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)46. Seriously?
And, why would Brown be pushing a cops gun away in the first place?
Anybody points a gun at me, cop or no cop, if I'm close up, my first instinct is to push it away from me. First rule of handling a gun - never point it at anyone (unless you're planning to shoot them). Pushing a gun aside is the very first and most instinctual defensive thing you can do if you're up close and somebody points one at you. Just because Wilson was a cop doesn't magically mean nobody is going to try and stop him from shooting them if they can.
Wilson CREATED the situation, just like Zimmerman did. He escalated, not de-escalated. Brown didn't just come over to his police car and decide to attack Wilson for the heck of it. From the evidence presented by bystanders who don't have a stake in defending either Wilson or Brown, Wilson stopped Brown for jaywalking, called him over to the car.
The only 'evidence' we have for what happened in the car is really from Wilson, who of course is going to give the account he's spent a month working on as the 'best possible light for him', since he never gave a statement at the time. Whatever happened, no matter who upped to 'altercation', Wilson pulled out his gun and fired one to two times at Brown at point blank range.
Again, if I saw anyone pull a gun on me at close range, my instinct is to try to push it out of line, because I'm going to assume anyone pulling a gun on me intends to shoot me. And I'm sure Brown figured he was going to be shot too, and he was completely right to do so, six times over.
But you're right in the end - the only chance Brown has for justice is for attention to be paid to what happened after Brown was able to break away and try to flee his shooter.
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Leaked autopsy report supports Darren Wilson’s account of Michael Brown shooting [View all]
still_one
Oct 2014
OP
correct, a rational person would realize that this cop got the shit scared out of him
snooper2
Oct 2014
#12
"This evidence". What evidence? Do you think probable cause exists to indict
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#16
I have no idea and neither do you because the results of the grand jury ARE NOT OUT YET
snooper2
Oct 2014
#20
Please explain how a wound on Brown's hand corroborates in any meaningful way
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#22
explain how a bullet going from the tip of your thumb toward your wrist is a defensive wound
snooper2
Oct 2014
#23
Well, given that the word 'Fundamentalism' stems from the latter stages of the Protestant
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#25
Thank you. Depending upon how Wilson brandished his weapon at Brown -- and
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#54
I'd love to see a reenactment, showing how he could grab a holstered gun inside an SUV
arcane1
Oct 2014
#65
I've elsewhere called that scenario of Brown 'going after Wilson's gun' utterly
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#68
"a significant altercation in the car" does not corroborate Wilson's account, which was that Brown
merrily
Oct 2014
#5
Has Wilson's actual account of the shooting been released? All I've seen is other people telling
Arkansas Granny
Oct 2014
#14
It was leaked to reporters for the NY Times last Friday in a late-night
KingCharlemagne
Oct 2014
#19
Why do you assume the 'pull' was 'during the struggle', as opposed to what initiated
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Oct 2014
#49
UPDATED: Former Police Chief Speaks on Latest Michael Brown Shooting Information
Eugene Stoner
Oct 2014
#26
The difference in Wilson's account and the witness accounts is what troubles me.
Arkansas Granny
Oct 2014
#9
I am not putting much stock into wilson's version, since he conveniently killed
logosoco
Oct 2014
#15
Most, if not all, the witnesses say there was an altercation at the car. But the autopsy does not
Hoyt
Oct 2014
#29
Yes, Brown had just robbed a store and the chief of police stated categorically
justiceischeap
Oct 2014
#69
they are trying to distract from the fact that mr brown was in the street AWAY
belzabubba333
Oct 2014
#42
How does this information compare to the autopsy done by Dr Michael Baden?
herding cats
Oct 2014
#51