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Mon Sep 22, 2014, 12:13 PM

61. So many problems with your analysis its hard to know where to begin to address them.

 

#1 - Europe has had problems for centuries. Our actions in World War II did not solve them and in fact led to the cold war and many other problems, some of which we are still seeing. Yet are you prepared to argue that the US and UK should have left Europe to Nazi Germany because it would not have solved Europe's problems once and for all?

#2 - You conveniently skirted the issue that I was addressing, that of many people here arguing that what we are doing now is "the same" as the Iraq war in 2003. The first issues to address are whether Obama with ISIS is the same as Bush with Iraq and Saddam and WMD and whether ISIS really is a murderous multistate terrorist entity bent on grabbing as much territory as possible.

Is it a good idea to allow a group that is so radical that Al Qaeda disavowed them, that has brutally murdered all the people that ISIS has murdered in a short time, to take over Syria and Iraq completely and have access to billions of dollars in terms of the regions petro-resources? Look what they have done with a few hundred million they looted from Iraqi banks and extorted from the countries of kidnap victims. And if you think they will stop with Iraq and Syria, they won't. Al Qaeda and their offshoots like ISIS hate the Saudi royal family. They consider Iran's mullahs heretics. They will take both of those countries. If we do nothing, ISIS will establish themselves as an extremely rich regional superpower with all the behavior we have seen recently, the ability to purchase and develop all kinds of weapons and will likely attempt to expand even further.

#3 - You are ignoring/dismissing what a number of folks who have been against most if not all recent wars are saying. People like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Jimmy Carter, etc. Just to name a few.

Ignoring all this is not the product of good motives. It's willful ignorance. It's a desire to seem holier than thou in spite of all evidence. It's a spiteful desire to attack the Democratic party and its officials.

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