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CincyDem

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4. Yeah - these cops have such an hostile environment they have to police...

Sat Aug 16, 2014, 06:22 PM

Aug 2014

...if I recall correctly, when that "angry" mob tossed a plastic water bottle that landed about 25 feet away from a police line (wearing enough body armor to take on ISIS), yeah - I can see how they felt threatened and had to react by tossing tear gas, rubber bullets and beating folks.

Yep - it's haaaaaaard out 'der to be a cop.

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I'm sure it's a very challenging job fraught with really touch situations and I'm sure that a large percentage of cops are trying to help. But it only takes a few little pieces of chit to give the whole profession a very very bad name. And when these pieces of chit band together in an entire force...this is what you get. And where you get this, it is very hard to not stereotype cops in general not because they're all bad but because its' usually "safer" to assume they are than to assume they're not. Today's version of Raygun's "trust but verify".

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I Believe I've Figured Out the Corrupt Chief of Ferguson Police's Strategy. [View all] MohRokTah Aug 2014 OP

Well they are definitely up to something that protect them! FarPoint Aug 2014 #1

Yes, and that is why I hope they can stop any rioting tonight regarding this curfew. They will just jwirr Aug 2014 #2

up to a point: cops prefer to use the term savages AngryAmish Aug 2014 #3

Yeah - these cops have such an hostile environment they have to police... CincyDem Aug 2014 #4

I fear you are 100% correct. 99Forever Aug 2014 #5

Cops have a very tough job, rudolph the red Aug 2014 #6

Shoot first and ask questions later? world wide wally Aug 2014 #8

No. Why would you say that? rudolph the red Aug 2014 #10

question: are you in law enforcement? CatWoman Aug 2014 #19

No, I am not. rudolph the red Aug 2014 #21

Have you ever been pulled over by a cop that stands in your blind spot yelling orders? icymist Aug 2014 #87

The former likely. aikoaiko Aug 2014 #104

Your statEment seems to suggest that you could fall into that trap world wide wally Aug 2014 #75

That's not being a cop. That's being a fascist thug. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #12

That is reality. rudolph the red Aug 2014 #15

That is bullshit and made up nonsense. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #22

I'm sorry, you and I have a very different view, rudolph the red Aug 2014 #23

I can't respect any opiniion that demands fascist techniques. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #26

I lean to the "wait for the facts" crowd rudolph the red Aug 2014 #27

Iirrelevant to this subthread. eom MohRokTah Aug 2014 #32

Facts are irrelevent, got it. rudolph the red Aug 2014 #33

"Wait and see" has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of this sub thread MohRokTah Aug 2014 #39

"treat everyone as a suspect" and "wait for the facts" seem pretty different to me fishwax Aug 2014 #73

Yes...He stepped in it, and then rolled in it with that one. JimDandy Aug 2014 #74

+1, n/t RKP5637 Aug 2014 #28

Maybe if you would have said "potential risk", folks would not misunderstand what you mean. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #34

You are correct, I misspoke. rudolph the red Aug 2014 #35

"They have to treat everyone as a suspect. " cui bono Aug 2014 #14

No they aren't, but the cop doesn't know that rudolph the red Aug 2014 #17

So statistically speaking what are the chances someone a cop stops and talks to is a murderer? cui bono Aug 2014 #18

I don't know the stats, sorry. I'm sure that an internet search will find them. rudolph the red Aug 2014 #20

You made the assertion, it's up to you to provide the info to justify it. cui bono Aug 2014 #25

I don't know the specific stats, nor do I have them memorized rudolph the red Aug 2014 #36

Good thing you aren't a cop. MohRokTah Aug 2014 #40

And for no reason since they don't even know the probability of that being the case. n/t cui bono Aug 2014 #46

Yep rudolph the red Aug 2014 #59

By your logic Tsiyu Aug 2014 #89

So there's no rational reason for you thinking that cops need to treat everyone as a suspect. cui bono Aug 2014 #45

No, you are right rudolph the red Aug 2014 #60

OTOH, WWSHD? randome Aug 2014 #99

I have had two police officers come to my house exboyfil Aug 2014 #52

Understandable to show caution. But if they had treated you "as a suspect" cui bono Aug 2014 #56

There were two stories christx30 Aug 2014 #42

Yep it sucks, but it's the world that we live in rudolph the red Aug 2014 #44

And that's why people hate christx30 Aug 2014 #50

Yep 85 posts in 90 days and 4 hides HangOnKids Aug 2014 #53

Hey Binka, find another one to go after rudolph the red Aug 2014 #64

Ah how charming HangOnKids Aug 2014 #66

Damn... I was expecting that you would at least call me an asscarrot, rudolph the red Aug 2014 #68

That would be nice. bravenak Aug 2014 #77

Four hides in 90 days rudolph HangOnKids Aug 2014 #78

Does 2 tombstones beat 4 hides? /nt pintobean Aug 2014 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2014 #109

I think he has you pegged correctly. JimDandy Aug 2014 #76

Many of us have noticed. nt laundry_queen Aug 2014 #85

And that, if true, is a world we must change, and not just accept. Shrike47 Aug 2014 #63

Proving innocence is unconstitutional The Wizard Aug 2014 #62

so maybe they should follow the Constitution questionseverything Aug 2014 #102

They also don't know if the person is a completely innocent citizen tkmorris Aug 2014 #24

True rudolph the red Aug 2014 #70

Agreed... FarPoint Aug 2014 #29

no, they have to treat everyone as a citizen they are sworn to protect. mopinko Aug 2014 #38

Poor things. I'll cry when one is unarmed and gunned down in the street with his hands up Scootaloo Aug 2014 #55

“Cops have a very tough job" busterbrown Aug 2014 #69

In this case no one was "pulled over." BuelahWitch Aug 2014 #80

+1 freshwest Aug 2014 #82

And the public doesn't know if the cop pulling them over is a homicidal racist maniac. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #83

They let looters loot and riot, then aim weapons at peaceful protestors. blm Aug 2014 #7

Most defiantly setting the stage. This is a dangerous place full of................ wandy Aug 2014 #9

Of course that's what he's doing. That's what they always do. Nothing new here. cui bono Aug 2014 #11

Ferguson PD, St. Louis County PD, and Prosecutor Bob McCullough for the defense, your Honor alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #13

Jackson wouldn't know a 'strategy' if it flew up his ass and VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #16

Yep, and they might get away with it in the St. Louis courts. MoonRiver Aug 2014 #30

What does that mean? pintobean Aug 2014 #93

Lots of corruption and prejudice. MoonRiver Aug 2014 #96

What do you base that on? pintobean Aug 2014 #97

I lived there for 12 years and there were many reports of police abuse against the AA community, MoonRiver Aug 2014 #98

I've lived here for 50+ years. pintobean Aug 2014 #100

I respectfully disagree cleduc Aug 2014 #31

The prime and only legal issue remaining, given acceptance of excellent reasoning tree, is Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #37

The chief said Wilson didn't know about the robbery. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #41

... when Wilson originally stopped him cleduc Aug 2014 #47

"went on to suggest" HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #84

What makes you think we're not going to get his statement? cleduc Aug 2014 #95

Here's other reports on it cleduc Aug 2014 #101

Let's see... Oilwellian Aug 2014 #106

Exactly. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #107

I don't think so on this "sees the cigars and then drives away" cleduc Aug 2014 #108

Hours after his crew had total control over all evidence MohRokTah Aug 2014 #43

I have my doubts that will matter much cleduc Aug 2014 #54

Only possibility for the cop is exboyfil Aug 2014 #58

The forensics/ballistics can probably answer that cleduc Aug 2014 #65

It kinda reminds me of the most ruthless, fearsome gang in Mexico made up of former mackerel Aug 2014 #48

It's clear to me that the FPD chief needs to be fired. mackerel Aug 2014 #49

Minor correction on your message body Scootaloo Aug 2014 #51

Stop resisting The Wizard Aug 2014 #57

This also falls squarely on the Mayor, City Attorney, Aldermen. gordianot Aug 2014 #61

What would be the charge against "the Mayor, City Attorney, Aldermen" and/or cleduc Aug 2014 #67

Not many but you can sue Government entities. gordianot Aug 2014 #71

I know the parents of the shot kids at Kent State had cleduc Aug 2014 #79

Will be interesting to see what the standard operating procedures are for Ferguson Police Department gordianot Aug 2014 #81

Poster said the chief. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #86

Here's my take on those so far: cleduc Aug 2014 #90

Their crimes didn't just start a week ago. HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #91

IMHO, here's the real problem: ReRe Aug 2014 #72

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Aug 2014 #88

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #92

A friend tried to justify the shooting Stargazer09 Aug 2014 #103

Yea that's it. maced666 Aug 2014 #105