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In reply to the discussion: Libertarians and Communists: Two Sides of the Same Douchenozzle [View all]socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)What we have today IS capitalism because that's what the capitalists SAY it is. Albeit with TOO much government interference, at least according to those capitalists.
And before you claim that the USSR wasn't sabotaged by the capitalist states, you really need to read some history. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING the USSR had something like 14 members of the Entente actually inside Russia supporting the White armies in the Civil War. AND IT NEVER STOPPED!There were CONSTANT threats to the USSR from then on, threats both overt and covert, militarily, economically, and socially from the world-wide dictatorship of capital. This first of a kind workers' state had no chance to develop naturally because of capitalist interference.
And finally, only the Stalinists called the USSR "communist". None of the other Marxists tendencies did. Lenin didn't. Trotsky didn't. The Trotskyists even said that the USSR degenerated from being socialist, which is the way station on the way to communism.
You're post is rife with Cold War propaganda and is shallow as a dewdrop on grass. You have NO understanding of the historical milieu in which the events of the early workers movement started and progressed in the early 20th Century. Equating an ideology like libertarianism with the scientific socialism practiced by Marxists proves this. The difference in ideology and historical materialism is that events prove out the one. Events are ignored by the ideologues.
And since the fall of the USSR, events have proved and are proving more and more every day that MARX WAS RIGHT. Being proven right consistently doesn't happen with an ideology.