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emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
39. I grew up in that area of Virginia Beach
Fri Apr 6, 2012, 04:47 PM
Apr 2012

And the neighborhood where the jet crashed is very close to one of the runways. It is near the resort area of the Beach and is heavily populated. I don't think that the pilot had much choice given where it crashed. If he could have put it down in a less populated area, such as the Atlantic Ocean, which is about 5 blocks away but in a much different trajectory, I am sure that he would have.

One of the Navy's major concerns with the Virginia Beach City Council over the years has been neighbor encroachment on Oceana Naval Air Station, one of the largest such military air stations in the world. The noise from jets in many of the neighborhoods in Virginia Beach is deafening and a real problem, especially at the end of the month when the jets seem to fly 24 hours a day in order to use up the fuel allotment so that the fuel allotments are not reduced.

In fact, we JOKE that Virginia Beach is one of the few places in the US that people ask for surface to air missiles as gifts for birthdays and holidays (just joking--so please don't flame me--but the noise IS a real problem).

I pray that no one was hurt in the crash and that the pilots are safe. Navy pilots are consummate professionals and try in such situations as today's to avoid populated areas in a crash situation; however, in Virginia Beach, this is not always an option.

The mailbox UPS store where I get my mail is a little over a block from the crash site. I called to see if they sustained any damage. They didn't but said that the jet flew so close over the store that they thought they were goners.


What the hell? Brickbat Apr 2012 #1
Maybe you should really think twice about ascribing political affiliation in an aviation disaster. n Poll_Blind Apr 2012 #2
Ok...I'll retract the part of the post.. PCIntern Apr 2012 #5
Funny that I did wonder why the captain has to go down with the ship malaise Apr 2012 #20
Got Link? MineralMan Apr 2012 #3
Or maybe the plane changed course after he ejected? Indydem Apr 2012 #4
The world isn't JUST YOU slampoet Apr 2012 #6
Boy did YOU miss the point... PCIntern Apr 2012 #8
Say hello to the person who is reading this in a month and wondering the same thing....... slampoet Apr 2012 #21
Maybe you don't have any idea what you're talking about, too. MineralMan Apr 2012 #7
Jeez... PCIntern Apr 2012 #9
The thing is that you have no idea what happened in that cockpit MineralMan Apr 2012 #16
Every loss of an aircraft is thoroughly investigated by the military. stevenleser Apr 2012 #23
Yup. We don't have the information needed to assess this yet. MineralMan Apr 2012 #27
Your response is extreme and completely unacceptable Strelnikov_ Apr 2012 #31
ROFL! Aerows Apr 2012 #32
I love it. LMAO stevenleser Apr 2012 #33
well said maddezmom Apr 2012 #38
Why do you assume they had control of the aircraft? nt hack89 Apr 2012 #37
Given where the jet crashed, there weren't many options for the pilot emsimon33 Apr 2012 #41
And adding the death of the pilot to an already horrific tragedy improves the situation in what way? GreydeeThos Apr 2012 #56
Perhaps they only bailed when they no longer could control the situation. Webster Green Apr 2012 #10
'Aimed?' elleng Apr 2012 #11
Planes that can't fly when it's windy? taterguy Apr 2012 #50
I think your second, non political explanation, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #12
Maybe the pilot's ex-girlfriend lived in the apartment DefenseLawyer Apr 2012 #13
Perhaps they could not turn the plane away Marrah_G Apr 2012 #14
They had just Gin Apr 2012 #15
I heard on CNN that this was a training exercise. WilliamPitt Apr 2012 #17
From initial reports... Lost control after takeoff... Sounds like they dumped fuel KeepItReal Apr 2012 #18
Pilot Gin Apr 2012 #19
CNN: "All indications show they tried to make it to the beach" nt pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #22
When's the last time you went zipping around in a fighter snooper2 Apr 2012 #24
They are trained rigorously to eject Aerows Apr 2012 #25
+1 librechik Apr 2012 #28
Good Friday Gin Apr 2012 #26
They don't kmow about casualties yet malaise Apr 2012 #30
No casualties as yet according to WAVY TV emsimon33 Apr 2012 #48
If they had the ability to "aim" the plane, it wouldn't have crashed. tinrobot Apr 2012 #29
The must have attended the George Herbert Walker Bush Flight School Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #34
Don't blame the pilots, blame the city council of Virginia Beach emsimon33 Apr 2012 #42
I don't blame the pilots, and I regret my snark Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #51
Are you by chance referring to this incident? KansDem Apr 2012 #46
That is indeed the war "hero" incident Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #49
Problem is construction encroachment at Oceana Hangingon Apr 2012 #35
Every inch around Oceana is developed. hack89 Apr 2012 #36
I grew up in that area of Virginia Beach emsimon33 Apr 2012 #39
Physics took it out of their hands, if it was a stall out. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #40
"Aimed"? What makes you think they had control over the aircraft? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #43
Trust me: The pilot DID NOT aim the plane at a neighborhood! emsimon33 Apr 2012 #44
I read that the plane was not responding to controls. They would not have been able to direct it jwirr Apr 2012 #45
Try directing your concern toward the legislators who Skidmore Apr 2012 #47
Seriously? Better read more about the story: hedgehog Apr 2012 #52
Really good news malaise Apr 2012 #53
As stated numerous times on your thread and from initial reports rufus dog Apr 2012 #54
So, where will the ticker tape parade be for those 2 'heroes'? rrHeretic Apr 2012 #58
Haven't seen anyone call them heroes rufus dog Apr 2012 #61
You're so far out of bounds on this one, you really should just delete your OP and lock this mess. MerryBlooms Apr 2012 #55
Kudos rrHeretic Apr 2012 #57
PCIntern is taking flak for the stupidity of his post hack89 Apr 2012 #59
and you rrHeretic Apr 2012 #60
So being anti war justifies unsubstantiated attacks on the military? hack89 Apr 2012 #63
I'm inclined to wait until the investigation before blaming the pilots. backscatter712 Apr 2012 #62
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