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Rogen, Apatow surprisingly unsympathetic to accusation that their movies caused IV killings. [View all] Warren DeMontague May 2014 OP

Why should they be sympathetic? BeyondGeography May 2014 #1

That was a jaw dropping stupid article. alphafemale May 2014 #49

Well, given that it was a bullshit argument to begin with..... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #2

Stupid accusation deserved to be answered harshly. CBGLuthier May 2014 #3

How about we blame the unmedicated, untreated, antisocial asshole who did the crime? MADem May 2014 #76

What a ludicrous accusation! Agschmid May 2014 #4

Besides you and Seth Rogen, who else said they "caused" it? redqueen May 2014 #5

It's not "my" spin. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #7

You made up the headline using his spin. nt redqueen May 2014 #11

HE himself used the word "caused". Warren DeMontague May 2014 #14

Yeah, he made up the accusation and you just decided his spin made a better headline. redqueen May 2014 #18

The thread is ABOUT his response to the WP editorial. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #19

Post removed Post removed May 2014 #21

Ouch, I think I need sunscreen. X_Digger May 2014 #23

Here ya go opiate69 May 2014 #27

I know! nt RiffRandell May 2014 #79

Really? Then what is this about? BainsBane May 2014 #82

I already answered her. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #110

Perhaps some people need more clarification. RiffRandell May 2014 #118

I read her stupid in full. She gratuitously mentioned them, she deserves the feedback they gave her. msanthrope May 2014 #9

Here's what she said: Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #10

And again, this is clearly someone who has never been within 10 miles of Isla Vista. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #15

So would Hornaday be happier if in Apatow's movies onenote May 2014 #26

Seth Rogan is not a good looking man CrawlingChaos May 2014 #57

Do you have any data to back up your supposition? AngryAmish May 2014 #60

Good post theHandpuppet May 2014 #80

What's amusing is that someone above actually asked for "data" to prove it. redqueen May 2014 #81

Oh, but if a man made a negative comment about a woman's looks on DU RiffRandell May 2014 #84

LOL redqueen May 2014 #85

Bullshit. RiffRandell May 2014 #83

LMAO! redqueen May 2014 #86

Average? RiffRandell May 2014 #96

We have an ignore button on DU for a very good reason MindMover May 2014 #108

I can't believe you think any of that helps your case CrawlingChaos May 2014 #119

I can! redqueen May 2014 #124

Yes, she was making that point treestar May 2014 #121

Hey, I got one for ya'... Ferretherder May 2014 #122

you're describing a very tired TV trope which is sometimes called "oaf and shrew" CrawlingChaos May 2014 #123

You don't call out famous people by name .... MicaelS May 2014 #38

Actually, I'm sure it was Dungeons and Dragons. AngryAmish May 2014 #58

But I look to them for intellectual guidance! phil89 May 2014 #6

I don't know what caused it, but I do find it interesting that people who've never set foot in IV Warren DeMontague May 2014 #8

I once rioted there, but that was back when Ronald Reagan was governor. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #12

Did you burn the Bank of America? Warren DeMontague May 2014 #13

Not me personally. But I watched it burn. And cheered. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #24

It has changed, for sure. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #25

Personally I look to 10 foot tall 3D blue aliens for intellectual guidance. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #16

if a person's day job is to write about stuff like this, they geek tragedy May 2014 #17

It's pretty shoddy, to say the least. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #20

of course, ironic thing is Seth Rogen is married to Lauren Miller geek tragedy May 2014 #32

I think the only Seth Rogen movie I've ever seen was the pineapple pot one. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #34

Honest question: Raine1967 May 2014 #22

Because Arthur Chu isn't calling Seth Rogen out? Humanist_Activist May 2014 #28

Hornaday was writing of the film culture, something she knows. Raine1967 May 2014 #33

Mr. Chu was calling out a large subsection of nerd culture... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #36

I think the use of Rogen and Apatow's names, plus ... MicaelS May 2014 #40

Hornaday has never been particularly critical of Apatow's movies onenote May 2014 #42

Watch her video response at the link to her article. Raine1967 May 2014 #44

Neither did she treestar May 2014 #39

Actually, from what I gather from her article, she thinks those movies "conditioned" Humanist_Activist May 2014 #43

High school conditions people to it then. Blue_Adept May 2014 #102

I think our entire culture expects us, from teenagehood on, to try to find validation in others... Humanist_Activist May 2014 #107

This is what she said: onenote May 2014 #47

one murderous rampage, but how much misogyny and sexual assault? CrawlingChaos May 2014 #62

Thank you for your posts in this thread. nt redqueen May 2014 #66

Absolutely correct. Hornaday is right. kwassa May 2014 #70

You should tweet Rogen directly, and ask him. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #29

Did you read her original piece? Raine1967 May 2014 #46

Can you draw the link between having more female voices in Hollywood onenote May 2014 #48

Was the Chu piece published in a major media outlet comparable to Washington Post? opiate69 May 2014 #30

I would consider the Daily beast a major outlet. Raine1967 May 2014 #31

It's a fine source for the latest dish on that saucy royal family, i say! Brilliant! Warren DeMontague May 2014 #35

Thanks for the lnk to Chu's piece. nt redqueen May 2014 #37

You're welcome. nt. Raine1967 May 2014 #45

Since when do accusers expect or even deserve sympathy from the accused? JVS May 2014 #41

She's right. The Movie, Music and Gaming (Entertainment) industry share responsibility with the NRA 951-Riverside May 2014 #50

I don't buy the blame movies, video games, etc. line. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #51

Just like that gun he used, the views in his head didn't magically get there. 951-Riverside May 2014 #54

And millions of people heard Helter Skelter and went on killing sprees onenote May 2014 #55

Interesting enough, gun nuts frequently use your argument. n/t 951-Riverside May 2014 #59

While I am sympathetic to your larger point Shivering Jemmy May 2014 #77

Like I said, I don't buy the blame video games, movies, music angle. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #56

Re: " I don't think media gives anyone ideas they wouldn't have had anyway." 951-Riverside May 2014 #63

right, those are BOTH arguments and declarative statements, which means... they're the same. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #68

You're probably right ... GeorgeGist May 2014 #65

I guess, but it also troubles me that Eminem's lyrics are blamed when a Nickelback fan kills people. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #69

He played Wow, one of the nerdiest games out there. Jamastiene May 2014 #64

Have you ever PVP'd in WoW LostOne4Ever May 2014 #78

ROFL! Jamastiene May 2014 #95

Also, according to FB, Elliot Rodgers wasn't so much an eminem fan, as he was a fan of Katy Perry Warren DeMontague May 2014 #61

Gee I wonder why Doctor_J May 2014 #52

thanking Mr. Apatow Skittles May 2014 #53

sorry, Hornaday is correct. read her entire piece. kwassa May 2014 #71

I saw Fox News asking if Hollywood is to blame Skittles May 2014 #74

All of this hand wringing is pathetic.. sendero May 2014 #67

It's a bloody tabula rasa on which people get to paint their favorite societal ill. X_Digger May 2014 #72

But we all know, "It's the guns, stupid!" nt valerief May 2014 #106

Right on time. I wondered how long that'd take. Thanks for proving my point. n/t X_Digger May 2014 #117

Yet. He got his belief from somewhere. kwassa May 2014 #73

He also believed he was 'entitled' to get on an amusement park ride at 6 years old despite Warren DeMontague May 2014 #75

Jealousy, envy The2ndWheel May 2014 #87

It is getting worse. redqueen May 2014 #88

Maybe it's the internet's fault then The2ndWheel May 2014 #90

Of course it is a combination of things.And this writer said he *may have been influenced*. redqueen May 2014 #93

She basically called him out The2ndWheel May 2014 #94

Well said. It's silly to blame movies and/or video games for the actions of one Louisiana1976 May 2014 #109

People are using it to promote a agenda for their own gain Harmony Blue May 2014 #120

It's time we stop blaming everyone but the killer. Sissyk May 2014 #89

What about his parents? closeupready May 2014 #92

I don't know them. I don't know what they'd done for him. Sissyk May 2014 #97

A lot of truth in what you posted here. closeupready May 2014 #98

You're very welcome! Sissyk May 2014 #100

They also were apparently en route from LA to try to get him due to the posting of his videos Warren DeMontague May 2014 #112

I didn't know that. Sissyk May 2014 #113

Yeah. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #114

That makes my heart break for them. Sissyk May 2014 #115

As I've said elsewhere, I have more than a slight personal connection to that piece of real estate Warren DeMontague May 2014 #116

There's lots of $$$ in violent and misogynistic films. closeupready May 2014 #91

If it was the end of discussion, we wouldn't still be discussing it. Sissyk May 2014 #99

Right, I guess I meant not "end of discussion", lol closeupready May 2014 #101

I agree with that. Sissyk May 2014 #103

YW. Have a great weekend. closeupready May 2014 #105

Crazy. Everyone knows it's James Bond's fault (Sean Connery, mostly). valerief May 2014 #104

He had a robo-liver, too. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #111