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Better self delete, juries already nuked two of your comrade's disgusting posts
JJChambers
May 2014
#45
Yeah, in the video I saw he was really creepy. He did not sound distraught to me at all. And
RKP5637
May 2014
#229
But I can understand wondering aloud what drove him to such a violent extreme.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#97
"It blames everyone but the creepy little monster himself." Exactly the problem, in a nutshell.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#109
The implication seems to be that some people simply don't matter as much as others.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#124
Yup. That one gender is here for the gratification of the other, and their choices not only don't
Squinch
May 2014
#126
Ultimately, we all have to live with each other's choices, so long as they don't violate anyone's
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#128
I suspect this guy's issues didn't spring to life on his 21st birthday. I'm quite sure he would
Flatulo
May 2014
#400
He actually was told this. Read his "manifesto." He wasn't listening, he didn't care,
seaglass
May 2014
#187
that is my point here. a clear indication it is all about entitlement. only men get rejected?
seabeyond
May 2014
#259
Because self-harm is culturally coded as "feminine," while harming others is coded as "masculine"?
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#31
Wow. This is not a young man feeling pain about misunderstandings. This is a murderous psychopath.
Squinch
May 2014
#17
Seriously, I don't think you are realizing how far out you sound on this. If someone is thinking
Squinch
May 2014
#29
Do you feel that someone needs to be punished when you don't get a date? Does that seem natural?
Squinch
May 2014
#75
The op is saying that these murders are the result of some kind of ubiquitous Western male
Squinch
May 2014
#86
Interesting that you are saying that I was the one who was bringing the discussion to who is
Squinch
May 2014
#267
that evo psych stuff has been debunked so often and so consistently and still.....
seabeyond
May 2014
#91
Or maybe trying too hard to "understand" him will help provide justification for further tragedies.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#106
Nothing wrong with that. My problem is when "understanding" seems to stray too close
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#182
I'm seeing a lot of posts here that seem to be conflating 'understanding' with 'approving'.
Flatulo
May 2014
#401
i am not stunned, and i am disgusted. all this validation is exactly what had one young man take it
seabeyond
May 2014
#93
I wonder if these men making these arguments are aware that one of the things they are really doing
Squinch
May 2014
#95
shocked as shit harmony would do a thread bemoaning the men not getting the hot gal. not.
seabeyond
May 2014
#102
Yes. Some people do seem to have a groove they're stuck in, but this is beyond the pale.
Squinch
May 2014
#108
I will be very surprised to learn that he killed anyone prior to starting this
Schema Thing
May 2014
#50
If every guy that couldn't get laid went on a homicidal rampage there would be no humans left.
Throd
May 2014
#30
But equating human behavior with that of the "lower animals" isn't exactly rational either.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#44
All I'm saying is that the world isn't as simple as a lot of the evo-psych types make it out to be.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#72
"If somebody had just listened to the shooter and tried to understand him..." You're more optimistic
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#85
tell me. do women get to have a chip on the shoulder not getting the hot guy? or is that privilege
seabeyond
May 2014
#79
Sure they can. As far as I'm concerned anyway. People are "entitled" to feel whatever they want.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#87
the POINT. women do not go around with a chip they do not get the hot man. yet many men will admit
seabeyond
May 2014
#88
I agree with basically everything you wrote there. And no matter how people "feel" subjectively
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#92
what has had me so concerned so long is so much of our society, so in our face is always reinforcing
seabeyond
May 2014
#94
Absolutely. It's a basic lack of care or concern for others - in this case, women - that is used
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#103
how many women do we hear whining about not getting the hot man and the hot man only wants the
seabeyond
May 2014
#144
Correct...A feminist writer once said that she was against legalized prostitution
whathehell
May 2014
#270
exactly. in any given situation, in all of life, i take it to me first. and maul it over.
seabeyond
May 2014
#362
that I know, also people use words in different ways and before starting to snark, I'd like to make
uppityperson
May 2014
#302
So therefore we should ignore biology and pretend we don't have instincts?
Warren Stupidity
May 2014
#332
breathing however is not an instinct. I think part of the confusion might be in the definition
uppityperson
May 2014
#324
If you view breathing as in instinct, it tells me something about you and impacts how I consider
uppityperson
May 2014
#300
Your characterization of women of being programmed to sleep with vicious barbarians.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#195
the problem there. we are using story telling and make believe to conclude what that very
seabeyond
May 2014
#277
Humans, human brains, have evolved beyond reptile f*ing in the primordial ooze or birds building
uppityperson
May 2014
#304
you know what. coming in this OP now, i remember. the little boy forcing kisses on the girl.
seabeyond
May 2014
#431
"My "smile" in the above post was an attempt to say "I am smiling" and not a command"
redqueen
May 2014
#461
If they don't agree with you they are "close-minded"? What "instincts" are you talking about?
uppityperson
May 2014
#303
you are really invested in htis. i have not even gotten to your post from this morning, of story
seabeyond
May 2014
#432
when a man tells us we have to have our barbarians, and many of us in a lifetime have never
seabeyond
May 2014
#449
and that is it. bottomline. that is the argument men will make when calling out the bullshit.
seabeyond
May 2014
#453
wouldnt the theory be that all us women would now be tingly for this mass murderer? i am not seeing
seabeyond
May 2014
#454
exactly, it's human to look for sources to confirm your own biases, but get real. Except for a few
bettyellen
May 2014
#228
Exactly. My friends and I have never dated the flesh-mountains we're supposed to be
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#231
I did in college once, a semi pro footballer. It was out of curiosity and he had a motor cycle and
bettyellen
May 2014
#257
You don't blame women for acting on their "instincts", avoiding nasty assholes? gee, what a guy
uppityperson
May 2014
#306
laughing my fuggin ass off. that is funny. all that alpha that he is. there it is boys. lol. nt
seabeyond
May 2014
#433
I hope most people maker better choices than to kill a bunch of people as they age
gollygee
May 2014
#42
golly... were you in the thread harmony started about the 6 yr old boy kissing and harassing a
seabeyond
May 2014
#440
The biological determinism line of argument was tried decades ago to explain the failings
ancianita
May 2014
#112
claiming untrue things as true impacts how we view the rest of what you say.
uppityperson
May 2014
#309
Interesting, I recall a debate in a policy class seminar that brought up Clan of the Cavebear
adirondacker
May 2014
#360
w.t.f. "The people we mate with are seldom the people we decide to create a social structure with"
uppityperson
May 2014
#308
talk to real scientists about that. it is more foolish to blindly follow something thats disapproved
seabeyond
May 2014
#223
The entire mass of a collapsed solar system of bullshit condensed into a single post!
Throd
May 2014
#53
and we generally choose our mates per interaction with opposite gender parent at age 4'ish to -7....
seabeyond
May 2014
#275
Well, hell, now that he's proven he's da'MAN I wanna have sex with him and his high testosterone
uppityperson
May 2014
#133
Thank you, I looked at it and I agree that behavior is influenced by out genetics.
uppityperson
May 2014
#280
I consider it progress if you are willing to grant that sociobiology is relevant.
Laelth
May 2014
#283
That is all you got out of my post? Did you miss correlation vs causation, making assumptions?
uppityperson
May 2014
#293
clooney does not have the face they are talking, so they say "smouldering" eyes. to be able to
seabeyond
May 2014
#226
Sorry. I have great respect for you, but I am not following you on that post. n/t
Laelth
May 2014
#234
pitt has the jaw. clooney does not. clooney does not fit this supposed preference.
seabeyond
May 2014
#235
and i can make the same comment to you about science not suiting you, and how i actualy value true
seabeyond
May 2014
#393
But we're the bad people because we don't want to understaaaannnd, man.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#196
Trust me. I knew, from the beginning, that what I had to say here would not be popular.
Laelth
May 2014
#260
And none of that has anything to do with why this sociopath just blew away several people.
Starry Messenger
May 2014
#271
You can't help believing what you write, refuse to consider and learn from others replying?
uppityperson
May 2014
#312
I do not blindly believe what someone tells me, that is true. Thank you for noticing. eom
uppityperson
May 2014
#417
maybe he couldn't attract any women because we viewed them as sluts? Maybe he missed the cues that
uppityperson
May 2014
#310
If you actually believe that immuno-suppressants leave one with a "killer" immune system,
Ikonoklast
May 2014
#248
"suppressant" means weaker, lower. They have a lower, suppressed immune system.
uppityperson
May 2014
#315
He hasn't posted for a couple hours, let's see if he comments when he starts again.
uppityperson
May 2014
#343
Hello, I wanted to make sure you understood "suppressed" does not mean "strong" but weaker
uppityperson
May 2014
#429
If sexual frustration is really such a commonplace motive for murder, then why do pro athletes etc.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#55
chip on should cause cant get hot gal, sexually frustrated. what about women? men that make sex ALL
seabeyond
May 2014
#84
I'm not sure I buy your thesis. At this point I'm not sure what he was or was not taught, per your
Nuclear Unicorn
May 2014
#49
those are really good points. OP comments a lot on his upbringing, yet here op says we don't know
uppityperson
May 2014
#390
I think a lot of folks are connecting this with the OP's prior posting history. Fairly or not. n/t
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#62
Absolutely. And I don't accuse you of any particular ill intent in posting this OP, even if I find
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#78
I think it would be a mistake to read too much into such a vicious, senseless act.
nomorenomore08
May 2014
#60
Women have spent millennia "understanding" males' needs. Understanding is the booby prize.
ancianita
May 2014
#63
This is it ^^^^^^^^ Those urging "understanding" seem to think that this monster's motivations
Squinch
May 2014
#90
and what needs to be taken to the heart is many many young men feel the same only a much lower
seabeyond
May 2014
#96
squich. i think htis entiltement is more than just "those" men. men we love. men...
seabeyond
May 2014
#110
Oh, totally. I think we are all sometimes caught up in that conditioning. I know even I STILL
Squinch
May 2014
#115
The fundamental lesson that these guys fail to learn is that they are not entitled to sex
alarimer
May 2014
#74
Boys and men have all the examples they want to see. One need not have any "teaching" to learn.
ancianita
May 2014
#119
fuckin for real harmony? you really went there. first line. done. i cant hardly stomach
seabeyond
May 2014
#76
it seems like a lot of what is being defended here is the very issues that drove this dude to murder
seabeyond
May 2014
#147
codswallop. baloney. I just read his entire memoir. he was a littly psychopath- in the most
cali
May 2014
#101
I think it would be more like, "We know he makes your skin crawl, and will probably physically
Squinch
May 2014
#125
I do not understand what "he had no proper male role model in his life" means. Blame his dad & male
uppityperson
May 2014
#129
"... male suffering that we often don't fully understand in the Western world." ?? only in the East?
LooseWilly
May 2014
#135
This is the second post today I've read from DUers most hostile to women and/or poc that are
Number23
May 2014
#140
Oh yeah, I'm aware. That's why I said that this is the second OP I've read from posters well known
Number23
May 2014
#381
Another bullshit, armchair psychoanalysis based on one's own small frame of reference...
kysrsoze
May 2014
#146
Well...how else do you explain why serial killers get marriage proposals in prison?
davidn3600
May 2014
#155
i imagine trash is comfortable hanging with trash. ya think? dont you think like hangs with like,
seabeyond
May 2014
#156
those abused as kids often already know what it is to love an abuser. barabarians are not appealing
bettyellen
May 2014
#205
"We are comfortable with the familiar, even if it is painful." A counselor told me that once,
raccoon
May 2014
#388
Can you never drop that nonsense?: "many women do make very poor choices in who they choose as
Squinch
May 2014
#354
Please do not assume what is true for you and your ex, is true for the majority. There is no
seaglass
May 2014
#185
Elliot Rodger would have found your writing to be true and you to be sympatico.
boston bean
May 2014
#176
agreed. guess we women really can give the discerning eye to the "bad" in our men. nt
seabeyond
May 2014
#233
all of his manhood is wrapped up in the presentation, the girl on his arm, indicative of his worth a
seabeyond
May 2014
#242
pretty damn close myself. and adding discussionist merely let us know, how we as minority groups
seabeyond
May 2014
#244
good post. i agree. and saw it in a matter of a few days. you are right. now an mra post stands
seabeyond
May 2014
#367
I still think the 'I might be a rapist'/'what is rape?' threads were the worst. nt
redqueen
May 2014
#261
I guess since I already knew guys like this were here, and I know how many there are
redqueen
May 2014
#398
he also had an OP about a 6 yr old boy, forcing kisses on a girl and keeping her from her friends.
seabeyond
May 2014
#436
he contrives poor arguments. i would never ignore. just to address the wrongs immediately.
seabeyond
May 2014
#446
good points all. Additionally, guys are taught that it has to be a "chase" or "hunt"
yurbud
May 2014
#278
are girls allowed to enjoy sports and fish? or is that only for the man? so women will be attracted
seabeyond
May 2014
#287
further, are you teaching your son to embrace and enjoy a good book? classics? thinking, pondering,
seabeyond
May 2014
#290
I have a list (not on paper) of what I look for in a man. Off the top of my head, I am interested
Tuesday Afternoon
May 2014
#328
cause we likes our barbarians... he was just giving us what we want, right? if we like the bad boy
seabeyond
May 2014
#372
Calling all men! Care for a ripe, juicy apple, right off the tree? Picked it myself.
Zorra
May 2014
#319
"I try to explain to these young men that young woman in their 20's have not yet cultivated healthy"
AtheistCrusader
May 2014
#395
a couple months ago he said he was a grasseater. saying, he no longer plays. so i am confused. nt
seabeyond
May 2014
#439
UrbanDictionary did not help me puzzle out what 'grasseater' means in this context.
AtheistCrusader
May 2014
#442
The fact that you felt compelled to write all that speaks volumes about your character. nt.
Rex
May 2014
#428
Frankly, I find your post disturbingly similar to the Elliot Rodger screeds.
WinkyDink
May 2014
#460