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Fri Apr 4, 2014, 09:09 AM

46. Re: Firefighters

Star Member lumberjack_jeff (27,836 posts)
43. a) you have no idea.

b) I've also never had a job in which I'm paid to sleep.

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179 replies	Author	Time	Post
Boston firefighters dig through ashes to find fallen comrade's wedding ring [View all]	sheshe2	Apr 2014	OP
Should this level of ceremony be extended to everyone who dies on the job?	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#1
I doubt that I will..	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#2
+1	Hekate	Apr 2014	#3
Thank you Hekate~	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#5
+ another 1	calimary	Apr 2014	#98
The 2009 fatality rate for firefighters was 4.4 per 100,000.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#11
Nothing says selfless bravery like commercial fishermen	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#16
And you have the gall to call me callous?	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#19
I stand by that	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#22
Yes because them dying is OK to you? Like coal miners also I guess. nt	Logical	Apr 2014	#33
That is not what was said and you damn well know that! nt	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#36
I imagine that should a group of coal miners perish...	LanternWaste	Apr 2014	#60
because you stunk up a thread about a firefighter's funeral	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#85
Spot on. nt.	Rex	Apr 2014	#119
Right on the money.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#127
Right on!	marew	Apr 2014	#152
The firefighters low fatality rate is a tribute to extraordinary and constant training.	Gidney N Cloyd	Apr 2014	#24
Firefighters’ mourning rituals steeped in tradition	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#39
Your thoughts on post 71	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#117
You have at least one vote of support here.	DaveJ	Apr 2014	#174
Yeah, and they do it just about everywhere else	RandoLoodie	Apr 2014	#51
Beautifully said	MissDeeds	Apr 2014	#116
I don't understand it either. A coal miners death is just as tragic. Or a nurse who helps people. nt	Logical	Apr 2014	#4
Required? Not sure, but employers are welcome to honor their fallen, if they want to.	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#6
...	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#18
It's tradition, and a good one at that	JJChambers	Apr 2014	#7
This post	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#8
+1	badtoworse	Apr 2014	#10
... because it is callous to suggest that a farmer or fisherman deserves this show of respect? n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#13
But I'd take a guess that's not what you're suggesting at all	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#17
ABSOLUTELY NOT-	LiberalElite	Apr 2014	#23
Excellent point.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#79
farmers and fisherman would be honored by their COMMUNITY- a concept that seems to be losing its	KittyWampus	Apr 2014	#56
in the first response to the thread you questioned why anyone should be paid for attending	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#74
No, as is obvious to anyone who actually read it, I questioned whether EVERYONE should.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#104
I'm not suprised	kcr	Apr 2014	#30
No other job (other than the police), even approaches the level of camaraderie, and family	VScott	Apr 2014	#12
well put! The union has a lot to do with it. It's a brotherhood (ppl-hood) sisterhood we're all in	juxtaposed	Apr 2014	#106
This post just took my breath away -	LiberalElite	Apr 2014	#20
"Seems to me it's up to the loggers, fishermen, members of whatever... to do the same if they wish"	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#21
hey - you can read whatever	LiberalElite	Apr 2014	#25
Wth? Firefighter unity is a beautiful thing	BeyondGeography	Apr 2014	#29
No One Said That!	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#31
Out of curiosity.......	WillowTree	Apr 2014	#32
They do. Just no TV cameras. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#58
Next time one of your comrades goes down, arrange for the cameras to be there.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#130
Your analogy is callous.	bluestate10	Apr 2014	#26
I remember in a thread ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2014	#171
wow, callous much?	dionysus	Apr 2014	#27
What the fucking fuck are you about anyway?	lonestarnot	Apr 2014	#34
He is mad that a group of people give a fuck about their fallen commrade, I guess?	Rex	Apr 2014	#120
Most insensitive post this year.	we can do it	Apr 2014	#37
Actually, it does get worse...	mtnester	Apr 2014	#145
Actually, I have had a job like that.	Stonepounder	Apr 2014	#172
you must be a lot of fun at funerals	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#41
Spoken by someone who's never run in while everyone else is running out	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#42
a) you have no idea.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#43
You have got to be fucking kidding.	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#44
I think the poster to whom I replied is thinking of police. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#45
What?	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#49
No, I get it.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#52
I have no general disdain for cops and take a fair amount of heat on this site for that position.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#54
Furthermore cops get the same treatment	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#57
This thread is about firefighters, isn't it?	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#59
Actually, it appears to be about me. Which is okay.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#62
BS	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#65
here	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#69
This is based on hours worked.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#71
Based on 2009 figures, a firefighter has 4.4 chances in 100,000 to die on the job this year.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#122
Oy vay	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#123
these guys RUSH INTO BURNING BUILDINGS	Skittles	Apr 2014	#173
In the case of fire fighters...	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#70
I don't understand the distinction. I don't know why "it just isn't the same".	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#94
I guess you'd have to ask people with those other occupations why it isn't the same.	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#109
you know what? let's talk about how you don't rapists who cause pregnancies to pay child support	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#84
I always envisioned that your keyboard has two buttons. "Ad Hominem" and "Non Sequitur".	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#95
Ad Hominem arguments are often valid	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#96
because you made a post about a funeral about you	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#91
You don't get it, firefighters are often first on scene, especially paramedics.	we can do it	Apr 2014	#149
Quite true.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#150
you saved all these observations for the funeral thread	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#90
you'll always be remembered for one statement	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#108
Re: Firefighters	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#46
I have no idea about what?? I've got 7 fully involved structures under my belt.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#47
The firefighters I know work 24 on, 48 off. n/t	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#50
Yes that is a very common shift. So, You expect them to what	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#53
...and they can be ready and out the door very quickly when an alarm comes in.	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#63
how much can they actually sleep?	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#99
Most Fire/Resue work what's called the Kelly Schedule.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#132
A lot do 24 on 48 off, unless stay over or called in for overtime.	we can do it	Apr 2014	#154
A lot do,	IronGate	Apr 2014	#156
Yes my husband does 24 on 48 off 24 on 96 off - or something like that, I have never	seaglass	Apr 2014	#157
Ask him if he works the Kelly Schedule.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#159
He doesn't work the schedule you described above. It's 24 on 2 days off, 24 on 4 days off. n/t	seaglass	Apr 2014	#161
What a great schedule.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#162
You think? I hate it. He doesn't really like it either and is pretty much wasted the day following	seaglass	Apr 2014	#163
That's why I love the Kelly schedule.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#164
Yes it is union. It took years to get to the 24 hr shift - they had to show how it reduced OT	seaglass	Apr 2014	#165
Ok.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#166
You sound like those 'people' that protest soldiers' funerals.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#48
Those damn goose steeping water wasting fascists!	penultimate	Apr 2014	#64
This message was self-deleted by its author	seaglass	Apr 2014	#78
So you saved this observation for the thread about the firefighter who was killed?	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#81
I'm hoping this thread	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#82
LJJ is Westboro-ing this funeral story	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#83
are you badmouthing emergency room doctors in residence?	CreekDog	Apr 2014	#89
You think Firefighters are paid to sleep?	IronGate	Apr 2014	#131
Thanks for the insight IronGate!	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#133
I laugh and shake my head every time I hear that FF/Para's get paid to sleep.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#134
Thank you. I am sick of jealous idiots acting like it's a picnic, not work	we can do it	Apr 2014	#148
Thank you.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#151
So true, and then possibly paramedic school where if you fail some tests you are out.	we can do it	Apr 2014	#155
Been there, still doing that.	IronGate	Apr 2014	#158
Stay strong and be safe!	we can do it	Apr 2014	#168
In your other thread you indicated that there was one alarm between 22:00 and 06:30.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#175
Wow? This the best you can come up with?	IronGate	Apr 2014	#176
So, the issue isn't that you don't get paid to sleep...	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#177
It wasn't really a big Nuh-uh towards you specifically,	IronGate	Apr 2014	#178
"one is just as important as the other"	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#179
Clueless idiot	we can do it	Apr 2014	#147
+1,000	rudolph the red	Apr 2014	#55
Some other fire fighter fun perks	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#61
Oh come on, you guys are basically glorified grass waterers and window washers...	penultimate	Apr 2014	#66
I'm not a ff.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#67
I hope you weren't paid while you were sleeping!	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#72
You bet I was!!	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#73
Ahhh... I misunderstood your post further up the thread	penultimate	Apr 2014	#75
Actually since cameras have gotten increasingly smaller	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#77
Since you did a series on them.....	blueamy66	Apr 2014	#88
Yes, that is mostly true	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#92
Do you find that most FF that work the 24on/28off shifts have second jobs? side jobs?	blueamy66	Apr 2014	#110
Oh I think the thread is thoroughly hijacked	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#111
One more question please.	blueamy66	Apr 2014	#112
Fair enough.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#113
Interesting about the one that was saved as a child.	blueamy66	Apr 2014	#114
Here's a blurb on him	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#115
So you're a videographer? I guess the "seven fully involved structure fires" confused me.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#101
Videographers do weddings my friend.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#102
...	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#68
Appears that no one got your sarcasm.	NCTraveler	Apr 2014	#76
Cynicism not sarcasm.	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#80
That seems kinda troll-y	cyberswede	Apr 2014	#86
Trying my best to give them the benefit of the doubt.	NCTraveler	Apr 2014	#100
Therefore everyone else is a dim reactionist?	Boom Sound 416	Apr 2014	#103
You think concern trolling is sarcastic absurdity?	Rex	Apr 2014	#121
Yes and yes, if the workers have a collective bargaining agreement with that stipulation.	Gormy Cuss	Apr 2014	#87
Should the UAW or Teamsters include that stipulation?	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#105
I already answered that question. n/t	Gormy Cuss	Apr 2014	#107
What a horrible rw reaction!	FSogol	Apr 2014	#93
If their want to colleagues step up and show that kind of camaraderie	Codeine	Apr 2014	#124
So, in summary	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#125
Where the fuck do you get that from my post?	Codeine	Apr 2014	#126
I wasn't intending to direct it at you, but to comment on the thread in general.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#128
Oh, yes he usually is.	Starry Messenger	Apr 2014	#146
This message was self-deleted by its author	Renew Deal	Apr 2014	#135
Thanks for sharing.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#136
Here's an inoffensive question for you	Renew Deal	Apr 2014	#137
And yet you still didn't answer the question.	lumberjack_jeff	Apr 2014	#138
No, only to those who die as a result of knowingly taking a risk in a good cause.	Donald Ian Rankin	Apr 2014	#169
In a word...yes!	jmowreader	Apr 2014	#170
I just had a good cry looking at all of the pics at the Globe link	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#9
Thank you, Capt. Obvious.	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#14
Sorry that was the only response for hours	Capt. Obvious	Apr 2014	#28
I am so very sorry for your brother in laws loss of his friend, Lt. Edward Walsh.	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#35
A big stinking floating turd at that.	we can do it	Apr 2014	#38
How very sad, she.. bless their Fire Fighting Hearts..	Cha	Apr 2014	#15
Boston firefighters honor their own.	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#40
..	Cha	Apr 2014	#118
I'm sorry this has been taken over by someone begrudging them their mourning ritual and ceremony.	Blue Diadem	Apr 2014	#97
Me too...	marew	Apr 2014	#153
Courageous men and woman	ismnotwasm	Apr 2014	#129
They are.	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#140
Heartbreaking. Especially on top of all the anniversary commentary on the Marathon	FailureToCommunicate	Apr 2014	#139
Thank you FailureToCommunicate.	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#142
Yes, it was all too close.	FailureToCommunicate	Apr 2014	#144
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Apr 2014	#141
Welcome to DU, Dee Bates~	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#143
Most of the firefighters where I live	Tsiyu	Apr 2014	#160
Thank you for your kind post, Tsiyu.	sheshe2	Apr 2014	#167

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