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truedelphi

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93. Oh brother.

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 10:51 PM

Mar 2014

Last edited Sun Mar 16, 2014, 06:01 PM - Edit history (1)

I bet you also think that the folks over at the FDA give a crap about the medical devices they allow to go for sale to the public, or the GMO crud they say is safe to eat.

I guess people here really are that naive.

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Study shows what we all knew: phone metadata can be used for insane breaches of privacy [View all] Newsjock Mar 2014 OP

Nothing to see here, citizen Aerows Mar 2014 #1

Gotta make that "consumer" for accuracy. We have been demoted. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #47

Sadly Aerows Mar 2014 #58

Where Be The Government Defenders? - "It's Just Metadata" cantbeserious Mar 2014 #2

Hope! Change! Snowden is a monster! villager Mar 2014 #3

Tell that to Diane Feinstein. She seems very fearful these days since we found out they are spying sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #75

But it's just metadata. No one cares if they collect that. Besides Google Autumn Mar 2014 #4

This 'study' has so many holes, it's worthless. idendoit Mar 2014 #5

The "study" just had ODS mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #6

haha... cui bono Mar 2014 #9

And what study did you do? neverforget Mar 2014 #15

I study baseless studies. idendoit Mar 2014 #22

Are you going to throw out buzz words like a hack pop psychologist or pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #17

Why rely on bloggers to defend spurious data? idendoit Mar 2014 #21

Since you asked, here they are. Now having embarrassed yourself, what credentials do you bring? pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #27

I ask again why isn't this 'study' published.... idendoit Mar 2014 #35

lol - apology not accepted. Supply your credentials on this subject. Only then, will we talk. pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #36

I'm a high school drop out. Have you started yet? idendoit Mar 2014 #37

... sibelian Mar 2014 #45

Jope Biden knew THAT back in 2006. bvar22 Mar 2014 #7

But but but LondonReign2 Mar 2014 #8

I call them the "ignore list." [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2014 #10

its like an adblocker bobduca Mar 2014 #11

heh heh truedelphi Mar 2014 #61

For example, spying apologists are NOT dchbags, they are META dchbags. See the difference? nt pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #12

Remarkable! OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #13

actually I would think a person would be more worried about dsc Mar 2014 #50

Processing metadata enough so it's not metadata any longer. baldguy Mar 2014 #14

They processed metadata until it's not metadata anymore! neverforget Mar 2014 #16

Data. But nobody anywhere is claiming this is what the NSA is doing. baldguy Mar 2014 #19

What you're saying, I think, is that the NSA is gathering metadata but doesn't process it? neverforget Mar 2014 #20

Show me where anyone anywhere has claimed the NSA is targeting individual Americans baldguy Mar 2014 #23

Thanks for not answering my question. I guess you don't have an answer. neverforget Mar 2014 #25

You seem to have everything figured out already. baldguy Mar 2014 #30

You made an assertion. Back it up since you have everything figured out. neverforget Mar 2014 #31

Um, no. An assertion was made in the OP and the article that it links to. baldguy Mar 2014 #33

What they said was that you can get a lot information identifying what a particular individual neverforget Mar 2014 #38

If the NSA is doin the things you claim, there must be thousands of Americans in jail because of it. baldguy Mar 2014 #40

I gave you links to what they are doing and then you say something I didn't claim neverforget Mar 2014 #41

Names? baldguy Mar 2014 #42

Still slaying those straw men baldguy. Bravo! neverforget Mar 2014 #43

You open yourself up for ridicule when you make claims you can't back up. Welcome to the Internets. baldguy Mar 2014 #52

"I" open myself up to ridicule? I never claimed that anyone went to jail over this. neverforget Mar 2014 #74

When *did* you decide to become an apologist for illegal government actions? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #44

Show me any evidence that the present administration is targeting it's political enemies baldguy Mar 2014 #49

our gov't is not supposed to be based on trusting one admin or another questionseverything Mar 2014 #51

We're not "supposed" to have a standing army, or have 90% of our media controlled by 6 corporations baldguy Mar 2014 #54

you see it as attacking questionseverything Mar 2014 #55

I'm all in favor of robust and aggressive oversight by Congress. baldguy Mar 2014 #56

who on DU wants Rand Paul for President? neverforget Mar 2014 #66

Nobody. It's a red herring thrown out by surveillance state apologists n/t friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #71

"It's different when *our* guy does it" would have been more candid and less verbose friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #64

Show me proof that "our guy does it", i.e. targets his political enemies using the federal govt. baldguy Mar 2014 #65

An illegal trawl is no more acceptable than an illegal specifically targeted search friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #67

NSA metadata collection is legal. (n/t) OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #68

More than a few Constitutional scholars disagree friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #70

Good for them. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #73

You've neglected to mention the ACLU's opposition to all this friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #72

The ACLU would be first to point out that honorable people can disagree baldguy Mar 2014 #78

Who do *you* believe "the people on (my) side" are? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #102

OK, let's just have a look see who's on YOUR side: baldguy Mar 2014 #105

2 can play guilt by association neverforget Mar 2014 #107

Sticking with the associational fallacy, eh? Fine friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #108

There's also the EPA, started by Richard Nixon: friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #109

snap! nt grasswire Mar 2014 #82

Good catch. More disgusting, blatant hypocrisy from the propaganda brigade. woo me with science Mar 2014 #101

They insist we've *always* been at war with Eastasia... friendly_iconoclast Mar 2014 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #96

Another RW libertarian shill wasting our time with conspiracy theories baldguy Mar 2014 #97

"First, they ignore us" bobduca Mar 2014 #110

You got that right. nt. neverforget Mar 2014 #111

They do process it. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #29

two levels of deception questionseverything Mar 2014 #48

Metadata is far easier to mine for useful information the contents of the messages. GliderGuider Mar 2014 #18

Yes. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #26

+1 jsr Mar 2014 #24

I can do this via fusion of any data I get on you Shivering Jemmy Mar 2014 #28

Indeed. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #32

meta-kick pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #34

NP. That person that explains why this is no big deal will be online Rex Mar 2014 #39

No big deal, pefectly legal, LondonReign2 Mar 2014 #60

This is the second time around for this story so here we go again. Now truthfully was this Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #46

Why would the NSA bother to find out who has multiple sclerosis? treestar Mar 2014 #53

Ahh, specific Purposes. Like listening to soldiers phone sex quakerboy Mar 2014 #57

Why would the NSA bother with that? treestar Mar 2014 #59

"Even if" quakerboy Mar 2014 #76

No the NSA does not have a specific purpose. It is a privatized group of contractors truedelphi Mar 2014 #62

How ridiculous. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #84

Oh brother. truedelphi Mar 2014 #93

The manner in which agencies carry out their duties... OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #103

BTW the multiple sclerosis sufferers are people known to use marijuana. truedelphi Mar 2014 #63

How many arrested so far? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #69

Oddly, that's a SECRET. DirkGently Mar 2014 #77

Did you catch last Sudnay's "The Good Wife" which was a fun but truedelphi Mar 2014 #81

I don't know the show; sounds interesting though. DirkGently Mar 2014 #100

I've asked that very same question several times in this very thread. baldguy Mar 2014 #79

I've been asking for months. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #85

Spying does not equal being arrested! Is that a really hard concept to understand? neverforget Mar 2014 #86

You think that your alleged spies are just voyeurs? baldguy Mar 2014 #87

I give you links. You give me nothing but accusations of libertarianism. Put up or shut up indeed. neverforget Mar 2014 #88

A dragnet with no arrests? baldguy Mar 2014 #89

You're embarrassing yourself with your ridiculousness because now Senators Wyden, Udall and Heinrich neverforget Mar 2014 #90

The whole basis of the current NSA hysteria originates from RW libertarians like Rand Paul. baldguy Mar 2014 #91

So are Senators Wyden, Udall and Heinrich Rand Paul Loving Liberatrians? neverforget Mar 2014 #92

It may not even be on purpose, some can't imagine that anything could possibly be amiss, just TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #94

Truly bizarre. Nothing but LIBERTARIAN! neverforget Mar 2014 #95

What's even more astonishing is that on a website dedicated to supporting the Democratic party baldguy Mar 2014 #99

So you changed LIBERTARIAN! for REPUBLICAN! Lol! Nice try. neverforget Mar 2014 #106

It was something that has happened very frequently. In fact, truedelphi Mar 2014 #80

How was the NSA involved? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #83

You are the patience-trying til I am exasperated person asking the truedelphi Mar 2014 #98